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href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>87</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6734235299871004761</id><published>2008-12-11T16:06:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T16:17:41.542-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theophilogue'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='new blog'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='T h e o • p h i l o g u e'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theophilogue.wordpress.com'/><title type='text'>:::___--_-_-_-__T h e o • p h i l o g u e</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;::::__--__--_--_--___&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" white-space: pre; font-family:'Lucida Grande';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theophilogue.wordpress.com/"&gt;T h e o • p h i l o g u e&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; white-space: pre;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In case you missed it, I've switched to wordpress.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am currently blogging at  &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" white-space: pre; font-family:'Lucida Grande';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;T h e o • p h i l o g u e 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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Since that change took effect, the number of automobile accidents in that region has increased by 15 percent.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;But the speed limit in Elmsford, a region neighboring Forestville, remained unchanged, and automobile accidents declined slightly during the same six-month period.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Therefore, if the citizens of Forestville want to reduce the number of automobile accidents on the region's highways, they should campaign to reduce Forestville's speed limit to what it was before the increase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Although &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;prima facie&lt;/span&gt;, this looks like a reasonable argument, the evidence given in this argument is insufficient to warrant the conclusion.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There are too many unknown factors that may be relevant to weakening the argument.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The argument must assume there are not possible alternative plausible explanations of the data that may lead to identifying a different cause for the increase in automobile accidents.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, the evidence does not contain information about whether or not the accidents are taking place in parking lots and backroads or on the actual highways where the speed limit was changed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What if the 6-month period is during the winter and all the increase in accidents could be traced to a few hot spot areas on steep backroads in Forestville, and Elmsford does not have comparable steep backroads?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What if the amount of accidents increases by 15 percent during the winter in Forestville every year, not just the year in which the speed limit was increased by 10 miles on the highways?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What if the speed limit in Forestville was changed because of an increase in traffic, which increase in traffic might also account for the increase in accidents for the same reasons that crime activity goes up in proportion to the increase in human population? &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The argument could be strengthened by ruling out these possible alternatives through demonstrating that this 6-month increase in accidents does not occur every year, and that the backroads and parking lots have not been the key areas where the accidents have occurred.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-993665967024759757?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/993665967024759757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=993665967024759757&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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me.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here was the statement I was asked to agree with, qualify, or disagree with, and my response follows.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   font-family:'Trebuchet MS';font-size:13px;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;"&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Both the development of technological tools and the uses to which humanity has put them have created modern civilizations in which loneliness is ever increasing&lt;/span&gt;."&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;The claim in question would be very difficult to demonstrate unless the methods for testing and measuring the extent and intensity of depression were very similar today as they were in the pre-modern periods.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even then we would need considerable access to the results of such testing from population samples that covered the majority of the human population.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Such research has never been done. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Furthermore, methods used to measure social phenomenon are extremely vulnerable to various weaknesses.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, are depressed people going to know they are depressed, claim to be so in a survey, be honest with themselves when asked about their experience, or actively seek a doctor?&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are those who do become diagnosed based on their own testimony of experiencing symptoms telling the truth?&lt;span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;Such methods would also need to show, for example, that when the same tools are used in different ways they do not tend to cause the same level of melancholy risk, otherwise the particular uses &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt; could not be identified as the cause of such melancholy.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Between the weakness of the logic of statistics and the scope of the subject of research itself, it is difficult to tell whether the claim is even verifiable.&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Perhaps a more modest claim would be easier to agree with.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, it would be easier to justify a claim that certain technological tools are used in such a way that they appear to have a causal role, among other causes, in the complex processes that contribute to symptoms associated with depression.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Video games, for example, may be shown to appear to play a causal role when a particular teenager uses them in such a way that keeps him from the personal interaction that would otherwise occur.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div 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theological and philosophical in some way.  Therefore, no topics are off limits.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);  line-height: 10px;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);  line-height: 6px;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;I'm going to keep this blog too, but I haven't exactly figured out what I want to use it for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8163211093942962000?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8163211093942962000/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' 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src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7228260279522820057</id><published>2008-10-07T21:33:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-07T21:54:57.227-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='journal'/><title type='text'>Tag .... you're it!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;The following questions come from Said at Southern.  I got tagged.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(17, 17, 17);  line-height: 22px; font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What are you reading on Spring reading days?&lt;/span&gt;: 1) Alister E. McGrath, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Making of Modern German Christology 1750-1990&lt;/span&gt;, 2) Gerald Hiestand, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Raising Purity: Nurturing the image of God in the Heart of your Child&lt;/span&gt;, 3) Matthew Elliot, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Feel: The Power of Listening to Your Heart&lt;/span&gt;, 4) Mark C. Mattes, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Role of Justification in Contemporary Theology&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What do you wish you had time to read?&lt;/span&gt;  1) Bruce L. McCormack, ed., &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Justification in Perspective: Historical Developments and Contemporary Challenges&lt;/span&gt;, 2) .David E. Aune, ed. &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Rereading Paul Together: Protestant and Catholic Perspectives on Justification.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What have you decided &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;NOT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; to read that you were assigned to read.&lt;/span&gt;  Nothing. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What is one great quote from your reading?&lt;/span&gt;  "&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The phrase eternal life is as much about life as it is about eternity&lt;/span&gt;." - Matthew Elliot &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Why are you blogging? (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;You’re supposed to be reading!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;)  &lt;/span&gt;Because the blogosphere is where I spend most of my study break time (lately anyway).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(17, 17, 17);  line-height: 22px;font-size:14px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(17, 17, 17);  line-height: 22px;font-size:14px;"&gt;YOUR TAGGED: ::&lt;a href="http://jonathanignacio.wordpress.com/"&gt;Jonathan Iggy Swiggy::&lt;/a&gt;, ::&lt;a href="http://saidatsouthern.com/"&gt;Tonny Kummer::&lt;/a&gt;, ::&lt;a href="http://goodsoldiers.wordpress.com/"&gt;Ricky Love::&lt;/a&gt;, ::&lt;a href="http://timmybrister.com/"&gt;Timmy Brister::&lt;/a&gt;, ::&lt;a href="http://motopolitico2.blogspot.com/"&gt;G.F. McDowell::, ::Alfred E. Neuman, Jr::. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7228260279522820057?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7228260279522820057/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7228260279522820057&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7228260279522820057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7228260279522820057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/tag-youre-it.html' title='Tag .... you&apos;re it!'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3484247369397000929</id><published>2008-10-06T18:09:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-06T18:18:30.993-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='World War'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Germany'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Classical Liberal Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karl Barth'/><title type='text'>When Experience Intersects Academic Theology, Karl Barth</title><content type='html'>Here is a quotation from Karl Barth, as he reflected on the reason why he abandoned liberal theology.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For me personally, one day in the beginning of August of that year [1914] stands out as a black day, on which ninety-three German intellectuals, among whom I was horrified to discover almost all of my hitherto revered theological teachers, published a profession of support for the war  policy of Kaiser Wilhelm II and his counsellors.  Amazed by their attitude, I realised [sic] that I could no longer follow their ethics and dogmatics, or their understandings of the Bible and history, and that the theology of the nineteenth century no longer had any future for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Karl Barth, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evangelische Theologie im&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;19&lt;/span&gt;.  &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jahrhundert&lt;/span&gt; (Zurich: Zollikon, 1957), 6.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-3484247369397000929?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/3484247369397000929/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=3484247369397000929&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3484247369397000929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3484247369397000929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/when-experience-intersects-academic.html' title='When Experience Intersects Academic Theology, Karl Barth'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-1617983574269828776</id><published>2008-10-06T11:50:00.015-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-06T12:54:32.780-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emergent Theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brian McLaren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scott McKnight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emergent Village'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atonement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerging Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity Today'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doug Pagitt'/><title type='text'>Great Scott! Catching up on things EmergenT</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOpPpSOg0dI/AAAAAAAAAV4/XAQeVW57vNs/s1600-h/The+Blue+Parakeet.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Many will be reading Scott McKnight's new article in the latest edition of Christianity Today.  Here's some background info on McKnight. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOpO6Nj7b5I/AAAAAAAAAVw/NMMw7FxMWlk/s400/mcknight_book4_470.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5254098677260840850" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?page_id=1137"&gt;Scott McKnight&lt;/a&gt; is a redactional criticism expert who somehow got involved in the discussions over the emerging movement, and soon after considered himself "emerging."  Actually ... it began like this ... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;After he started writing about the emerging church on his blog &lt;a href="http://jesuscreed.org/"&gt;Jesus Creed&lt;/a&gt;, his readership hits went through the roof, and his students (he teaches at North Park University in Chicago) became more interested in reading his writings.  He realized that most people were not really that interested in his technical writings on redaction, but whenever he wrote about the Emerging Church, everyone listened, and he could hardly keep up with the comments on his blog (one of the most well read blogs in the entire blogospheric galactic spectrum).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This led to number of conversations between him and emerging leaders.  Now that he's intimately familiar with the emerging movement, he considers himself emerging (yes ... I know about the recent "abandonment" of the term) and by Doug Pagitt's categories would be considered emergenT (that T is important ... you'll see why if you keep reading).  Not that I've heard Pagitt call McKnight emergenT, but because Pagitt and other emergenT leaders insist that emergenT is not defined by its theology, but rather, is simply a network of friends in conversation (deconstructive conservation mostly). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;HOWEVER ... Scott McKnight, although an emerging leader who has tried his hardest to be sympathetic with the concerns of emergenT leaders across the board (even &lt;a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/"&gt;emergent village&lt;/a&gt; etc.)--we will see more of this in his upcoming book &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Blue Parakeet&lt;/span&gt;--has not sympathized with the most controversial aspects of the emergenT movement.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOpPpSOg0dI/AAAAAAAAAV4/XAQeVW57vNs/s320/The+Blue+Parakeet.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5254099485967045074" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;His recent article, "McLaren Emerging," does several predictable things.  Here are a few ... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1) He reminds us of the distinctions between emerging (a broad movement of mostly evangelicals) and emergent (a smaller movement of the emerging movement that leans in a post-evangelical direction).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2) McKnight depicts Brian McLaren, perhaps the most influential emergenT leader, as having become disillusioned with the "gospel" he was taught growing up in an ultra-conservative church, and sensing a great tension between the "global" message of Jesus about the "kingdom," and the "individualistic" message about "salvation," that he grew up with.  McLaren thinks the church's message is different from the kingdom proclamation of Jesus.  The message of Jesus was &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;peace&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;reconciliation&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;love&lt;/span&gt;--"not just with God and not just in the heart, but both and more: the peace Jesus envisions is global. ... through him, God was launching a new world order, a new world, a new creation."  Sounds a lot like N.T. Wright's fresh emphasis on the new creation theme.  Nothing too crazy here.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) More specifically, McKnight tells us that McLaren questions the evangelical theology of the cross.  McLaren does not believe that the Father was "venting" his wrath on the Son so that believers could have salvation (i.e. penal substitution).  Rather, the central message of the cross is the repudiation of violence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4) McKnight addresses some questions to McLaren in a kind, but challenging, way.  They are predictable questions such as ... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;a) "What role does the Cross play in the emergent kingdom vision"?  He follows this up with statement like, "The most stable location for the earliest understanding of the Cross, from Jesus all the way through the New Testament writings, is the Last Supper--and not a word is said there about violence and systemic injustice.  Other words are given to explain the event: covenant, forgiveness of sins, and blood 'poured out for many.'  Insight into the Cross must start here."  Great [point] Scott.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;b) "What is the relationship of kingdom to church?"  He follows this up with statements like, "According to the Newt Testament, the kingdom vision of Jesus is, it seems, only implemented through the church."  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He closes by saying, "All in All, I am hoping that McLaren's works will lead to a massive conversation on the meaning of one word: &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;gospel,&lt;/span&gt;" and by quoting Mary's Magnificat from Luke as evidence that "Luke tells of a gospel far greater than most of us are hearing today." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thus ... he is sympathetic with the deconstruction of emergent leaders, agreeing that the church may have missed the full significance of the message of the gospel of the kingdom, yet skeptical of the reconstruction taking place with respect to theories of atonement and ecclesiology.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-1617983574269828776?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/1617983574269828776/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=1617983574269828776&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1617983574269828776'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1617983574269828776'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/great-scott-catching-up-on-things.html' title='Great Scott! 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term='creationism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rick Warren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='naturalism'/><title type='text'>Rick Warren Get's Publicly Challenged by a Naturalistic Scientist</title><content type='html'>Rick Warren spoke at the well known secular venue TEDTalks.  After he was done, a naturalist scientist challenged him on some of the things in his book "The Purpose Driven Life," which has sold a gigatrillion copies.  *I think PDL is the most popular book in history outside the Bible (or, at least that's what I've heard people say ... not sure how they get stats on that).*&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Anyway ... Poor Rick gets cross examined by Dan Dennett.  I posted a response to Dan Dennett's response below the video's if your itching for cross-examination of the cross-examinaton.  My response was initially posted on the comments section on the website, and spawned an interesting "debate" in the thread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rick Warren's Talk&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="color: rgb(119, 119, 119);   white-space: pre; font-family:arial;font-size:13px;"&gt;&lt;!--cut and paste--&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="320" height="285" id="VE_Player" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf"&gt;&lt;param name="FlashVars" value="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/RICKWARREN_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true"&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="noscale"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="window"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf" flashvars="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/RICKWARREN_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true" quality="high" allowscriptaccess="always" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" scale="noscale" wmode="window" width="320" height="285" name="VE_Player" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Dan Dennett's Response (you have to wait a bit before he starts challenging Rick directly) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="color: rgb(119, 119, 119);   white-space: pre; font-family:arial;font-size:13px;"&gt;&lt;!--cut and paste--&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="320" height="285" id="VE_Player" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf"&gt;&lt;param name="FlashVars" value="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/DANDENNETT_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true"&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="noscale"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="window"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/loader.swf" flashvars="bgColor=FFFFFF&amp;amp;file=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/movies/DANDENNETT_high.flv&amp;amp;autoPlay=false&amp;amp;fullscreenURL=http://static.videoegg.com/ted/flash/fullscreen.html&amp;amp;forcePlay=false&amp;amp;logo=&amp;amp;allowFullscreen=true" quality="high" allowscriptaccess="always" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" scale="noscale" wmode="window" width="320" height="285" name="VE_Player" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My Response&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Dan Dennett, like most scientist I have heard who try to speak to religion, doesn't appear to understand religion very well (or philosophy). He doesn't even come close, for example, to addressing the presuppositional differences that underlie his differences with Rick Warren and other religious leaders and the worldviews they tend to espouse. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's incredibly naive to think that religion could be taught unbiasedly--either by secularists or by religious leaders. Who determines the criterion for "facts"? Presuppositions will determine what one accepts as "facts," which means to even approach teaching a course on religion based on "facts only," you already have to use your presuppositions in determining what's legitimate for a class in religion. Thus, there would be no such thing as an objective look at the "facts" about religion. That such is possible is an enlightenment myth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, he picks on Rick Warren's belief in intelligent design (which is different than creationism, but he doesn't seem to be aware of these sorts of distinctions) rather than engaging, say, the Oxford/Cambridge/Berkley/Harvard Scientist's who have tried to argue for intelligent design. That's not good protocol, and it makes his critique of things weak. Rick isn't a scientist or a philosopher, he's just a pastor. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, he took Rick's comment in a way that Rick probably never meant it, and read into it certain motives that may or may not have been present (even IF his interpretation was correct)---namely, the motive of throwing down a "wild card" to trump any "reasonable" inquiry or questioning of religious beliefs. Such an understanding of Rick's comment is not only a misinterpretation of what a statement like that tends to mean to Christians like Rick Warren (again, demonstrating his ignorance of religious philosophy), but it also is guilty of reading motives into the statement, as if such motives could be accessed even if they were present. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sloppy engagement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7499898727334622951?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7499898727334622951/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7499898727334622951&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7499898727334622951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7499898727334622951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/rick-warren-gets-publicly-challenged-by.html' title='Rick Warren Get&apos;s Publicly Challenged by a Naturalistic Scientist'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-4779771221988283865</id><published>2008-10-04T10:19:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-04T10:25:10.069-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Choose Your Fallacy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOeKrL4a58I/AAAAAAAAAVo/CCv1GqyoUEc/s1600-h/P8190006.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOeKrL4a58I/AAAAAAAAAVo/CCv1GqyoUEc/s400/P8190006.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5253319964879415234" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Choose your fallacy today from the &lt;a href="http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/Fallacies.html"&gt;Dictionary of Logical Fallacies&lt;/a&gt; composed by Hogeye Bill.  Read through one a day a try them out on your friends!  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;No really ... I just find this list helpful.  You might want to add it to your bookmarks as a reference.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-4779771221988283865?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/4779771221988283865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=4779771221988283865&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4779771221988283865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4779771221988283865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/choose-your-fallacy.html' title='Choose Your Fallacy'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOeKrL4a58I/AAAAAAAAAVo/CCv1GqyoUEc/s72-c/P8190006.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-4564703739017549669</id><published>2008-10-04T09:58:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-04T10:12:05.322-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rhetoric'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Blog troll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rudeness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Denny Burk'/><title type='text'>You Might Be A Blog Troll If ...</title><content type='html'>Go &lt;a href="http://www.dennyburk.com/?p=2544"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to read Denny Burk's post "Don't Feed the Blog Troll's."  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;"Blog Troll" is Denny's word for bloggers who make rude comments or get more exercised about the subject matter than they should, and thus overdue the rhetoric.  His post is composed of suggestions for how to respond to such comments.  By reading his post, you may even realize that you have a little blog troll in yourself from time to time.  His suggestions seem fair and just, and you never know when a blog troll might show up on your blog. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Someone with more time than me should do a post with the same title as this one that actually lists several humorous things that blog trolls might do.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-4564703739017549669?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/4564703739017549669/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=4564703739017549669&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4564703739017549669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4564703739017549669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/you-might-be-blog-troll-if.html' title='You Might Be A Blog Troll If ...'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3419455869475264724</id><published>2008-10-03T22:48:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-03T22:56:01.952-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Calvin meets the Block, things will never be the same ...</title><content type='html'>Christian Hip Hop artists are starting to get more attention and appreciation from Reformed leaders because "Reformed theology" is actually making inroads through their ministries.  Lecrae, who is probably my favorite rap artist, was interviewed by Mark Driscoll about the missional aspect of Christian Hip Hop, Lecrae's life, false doctrine, and "Reformed theology."  Listen to it: &lt;a href="http://theresurgence.com/Interview_with_Hip_Hop_Artist_Lecrae"&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-3419455869475264724?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/3419455869475264724/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=3419455869475264724&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3419455869475264724'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3419455869475264724'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/calvin-meets-block-things-will-never-be.html' title='Calvin meets the Block, things will never be the same ...'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6962070043453567928</id><published>2008-10-03T08:37:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-03T08:45:22.704-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='inner city'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='richmond'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church planting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gospel'/><title type='text'>Spreading the Gospel in the Inner City of Richmond</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOYhwzL2wCI/AAAAAAAAAVg/px6-JCpvNdo/s1600-h/richmond.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOYhwzL2wCI/AAAAAAAAAVg/px6-JCpvNdo/s400/richmond.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5252923137631633442" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My friend Josh Soto planted and now pastors a church in downtown Richmond.  I haven't had a chance to visit there yet, but my friend &lt;a href="http://goodsoldiers.wordpress.com/"&gt;Ricky&lt;/a&gt; visited once and he says it's &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "&gt;thunder&lt;/span&gt; (well ... he doesn't actually say &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; "&gt;thunder&lt;/span&gt;, he says "awesome," but you understand).  The church is blowin' up.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;You can check out the churches website &lt;a href="http://www.insidealetheia.com/index.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  See pictures of the church and the people &lt;a href="http://www.insidealetheia.com/flash/photos.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Josh and I used to minister together on Vision teams at Liberty University.  Now he's a pastor at an inner-city church and I'm an outreach director at an inner-city church.  We've had talks about me coming down to Richmond to check out what he's doing, but I keep putting it off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-6962070043453567928?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/6962070043453567928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=6962070043453567928&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6962070043453567928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6962070043453567928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/spreading-gospel-in-inner-city-of.html' title='Spreading the Gospel in the Inner City of Richmond'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOYhwzL2wCI/AAAAAAAAAVg/px6-JCpvNdo/s72-c/richmond.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-1964205604319465163</id><published>2008-10-02T23:10:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-02T23:17:01.001-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Better At Street Preaching Than Debating Intellectuals</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;I thought Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron were outdone at &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en-us&amp;amp;q=Ray%20Comfort%20Cameron%20Debate&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;amp;um=1&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;tab=wv#"&gt;the debate&lt;/a&gt; they did on National TV with atheists.  Debating intellectuals is not what they do best.  This is ...  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ntDQqoMFLh0&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ntDQqoMFLh0&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-1964205604319465163?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/1964205604319465163/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=1964205604319465163&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1964205604319465163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1964205604319465163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/better-at-street-preaching-than.html' title='Better At Street Preaching Than Debating Intellectuals'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6323960352400368660</id><published>2008-10-02T22:31:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-02T22:49:13.696-05:00</updated><title type='text'>idiscover: Steve Brown Etc.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOWWMZgu6GI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/feQ4ES1DH_Q/s1600-h/Louisville+Days+001.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOWWMZgu6GI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/feQ4ES1DH_Q/s400/Louisville+Days+001.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5252769680148326498" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  ;font-family:Georgia;font-size:16px;"&gt;Have you ever heard of &lt;a href="http://stevebrownetc.com/"&gt;Steve Brown Etc&lt;/a&gt;?  He's a seminary proff who does a talk radio show that's a mixture of comedy and theology.  I find most Christian comedy corny and unappealing, but this guy rattled my giggle box the whole talk show!  He's hilarious!  Good humor.  Good conversation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/feel-dr-matthew-elliott-on-sbe/"&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the show I listened to. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I discovered &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sbe&lt;/span&gt; through the &lt;a href="http://oasisinternational.typepad.com/blogwithmatthew/media/"&gt;Audio &amp;amp; Video category&lt;/a&gt; on the &lt;a href="http://oasisinternational.typepad.com/blogwithmatthew/"&gt;Feel Blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-6323960352400368660?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/6323960352400368660/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=6323960352400368660&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6323960352400368660'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6323960352400368660'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/idiscover-steve-brown-etc.html' title='idiscover: Steve Brown Etc.'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SOWWMZgu6GI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/feQ4ES1DH_Q/s72-c/Louisville+Days+001.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-8786657383404933806</id><published>2008-10-02T14:35:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-02T21:11:33.750-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Prophetic Comedy</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Got this one from the &lt;a href="http://blog.ted.com/"&gt;TEDBlog&lt;/a&gt; again.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SwRFoxgEcHc&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SwRFoxgEcHc&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8786657383404933806?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8786657383404933806/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=8786657383404933806&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8786657383404933806'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8786657383404933806'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/prophetic-comedy.html' title='Prophetic Comedy'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-5865604672458373528</id><published>2008-10-01T10:13:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-01T10:18:54.744-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bailout'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TEDBlog'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='economic crisis'/><title type='text'>The A-word and the BAILOUT</title><content type='html'>October 1st's &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Boston Globe&lt;/span&gt; had &lt;a href="http://blog.ted.com/2008/10/the_bailout_and.php"&gt;a thought provoking quotation&lt;/a&gt; from Juan Enriqez on the BAILOUT.  I discovered it on the &lt;a href="http://blog.ted.com/"&gt;TEDBlog&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; line-height: 17px; "&gt;WITHIN THE billions of sentences about the financial bailout there is one word notably absent, austerity. All talk is of payments, supports, subsidies, incurring more debt, stimulus packages. The thesis seems to be: If only we spend more, the party can go on. True, only if the financial meltdown is a temporary mismatch and dislocation in housing and credit markets. But suppose there is something fundamentally wrong with the US economy. Then spending more will not fix it. Getting the diagnosis right means getting the treatment right. It may save us a trillion or two.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-5865604672458373528?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/5865604672458373528/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=5865604672458373528&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/5865604672458373528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/5865604672458373528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/a-word-and-bailout.html' title='The A-word and the BAILOUT'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7113269638862340072</id><published>2008-10-01T09:48:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-01T09:59:54.270-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Love is Better Felt Than Defined</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;Mark 12:28-34 (NASB) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus answered, "The foremost is, &lt;span style="font-variant:small-caps"&gt;'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength&lt;/span&gt;.'&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The second is this, &lt;span style="font-variant:small-caps"&gt;'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.&lt;/span&gt;' There is no other commandment greater than these."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that &lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps"&gt;He is One, and there is no one else besides Him; and to love Him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as himself&lt;/span&gt;, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When Jesus saw that he had answered intelligently, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After that, no one would venture to ask Him any more questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;_______________________________________________________  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"Let all that you do be done in love." – The Apostle Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy going or a clanging symbol. .... But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love." – The Apostle Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"Love is the fulfillment of the law." – The Apostle Paul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. … We love, because he first loved us." – The Apostle John &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"The law of faith ... is the love of him." - St. Augustine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-pagination:none; mso-hyphenate:auto;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"The Scriptures do represent true religion, as being summarily comprehended in love, the chief of the affections and fountain of all other affections." - Jonathan Edwards &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-pagination:none; mso-hyphenate:auto;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"But if the duty of the heart, or all due dispositions of hearts, are all summed up in love, then undoubtedly all grace may be summed up in love." – Jonathan Edwards &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-pagination:none; mso-hyphenate:auto;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"[Love is] the essence of all Christianity. … [Love is] the quintessence and soul of all grace." – Jonathan Edwards &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-pagination:none; mso-hyphenate:auto;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"The apostle [Paul] doesn't only represent love or charity as the most excellent thing in Christianity, and as the quintessence, life, and soul of all religion, but as that which virtually comprehends all holy virtues and exercises." – Jonathan Edwards &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;mso-pagination:none; mso-hyphenate:auto;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Lucida Grande&amp;quot;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11.0pt;"&gt;"As for a definition of divine love, things of this nature are not properly capable of a definition.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are better felt than defined." – Jonathan Edwards &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7113269638862340072?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7113269638862340072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7113269638862340072&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7113269638862340072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7113269638862340072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/10/love-is-better-felt-than-defined.html' title='Love is Better Felt Than Defined'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7561271995773914741</id><published>2008-09-27T01:19:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-27T01:21:10.524-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awe'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creator'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>unbelievable</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3Ya12I036lg&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3Ya12I036lg&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7561271995773914741?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7561271995773914741/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7561271995773914741&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7561271995773914741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7561271995773914741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/09/unbelievable.html' title='unbelievable'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3721012600774083760</id><published>2008-09-26T15:40:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-27T01:22:47.402-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A Generous Hearing for A Generous Orthodoxy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SN1JS8Zd-TI/AAAAAAAAAVI/VIir039YBqo/s1600-h/P8220080.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SN1JS8Zd-TI/AAAAAAAAAVI/VIir039YBqo/s400/P8220080.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5250433330383288626" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Ever listened to Brain Mclaren and tried to figure out where he's coming from?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.podnova.com/channel/417637/" style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 102, 204); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Here's a talk he gave where he tries to explain why he would call for a Generous Orthodoxy. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I found it from the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.podnova.com/channel/417637/" style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 102, 204); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Off the Map Podcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Here's a couple quotations from the Q&amp;amp;A that I found interesting: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;People are doing the best they can. ... The people who hate my books and all, they're doing the best they can.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;" - Brain Mclaren &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"J&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;esus didn't write books, but Jesus lived a life and made friends." - Brain Mclaren&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;"Our polarization is paralyzing and ... destructive. ... Even in the Roman Catholic Church, the conservative Catholics and the progressive Catholics hardly talk to each other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;." - Brian Mclaren &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);   line-height: 18px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; font-family:'Trebuchet MS';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;We compromised on the primacy of love&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;." - Brian Mclaren &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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Orthodoxy'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SN1JS8Zd-TI/AAAAAAAAAVI/VIir039YBqo/s72-c/P8220080.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6741541471656535105</id><published>2008-09-25T22:35:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-27T01:06:16.295-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Embryonic-Stem Cell Research'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Said at Southern'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the poor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='economic crisis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sanctity of life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abortion'/><title type='text'>iSaid at Southern</title><content type='html'>I've spent a lot of time interacting with a couple posts at the &lt;a href="http://saidatsouthern.com/"&gt;Said at Southern blog&lt;/a&gt; lately.  The &lt;a href="http://saidatsouthern.com/"&gt;Said at Southern blog &lt;/a&gt;is good at raising relevant questions and facilitating discussion.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the posts proposes the question, "&lt;a href="http://saidatsouthern.com/what-should-christians-say-about-economic-crisis/"&gt;What Should We Say About Economic Crisis?&lt;/a&gt;"  I tried to argue that we should be most concerned for the poor in tough economic times because they get hit the hardest by it.  As the discussion continued in the comments section, my understanding of the kind of crisis middle class people in the US are going through was sharpened.  As the conversation progressed further, I realized that not even the poor in the US have been hit hard YET (although things could possibly get much worse).  One commenter eloquently encouraged us not to get caught up in the fear that is pervading in the hearts of many people over this.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another one of the posts proposes the question, "&lt;a href="http://saidatsouthern.com/why-not-use-embryonic-stem-cells-for-research/"&gt;Why Not Use Embryonic-Stem Cells For Research?&lt;/a&gt;"  Very interesting question, and interesting discussion follows.  As sometimes happens, I thought the comment section wasn't addressing the real question the post was trying to raise, so I tried to sort of moderate a more productive discussion.  You would have to read the comments to judge whether it worked or not.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3817199074622528822</id><published>2008-09-24T20:08:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-24T20:11:26.286-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tony Jones Defends the Emergent Church</title><content type='html'>Someone recently used the argument against Tony Jones that the emergent church is more about "conversation" than about "action."  See Tony's full response &lt;a href="http://www.emergentvillage.com/weblog/blogologue-part-4-tony-jones-response-to-bill-easum"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tony has a blog of his own called, you guessed it,  &lt;a href="http://tonyj.net/"&gt;T O N Y  J O N E S&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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&lt;a href="http://sheworships.com/"&gt;She Worships&lt;/a&gt;.  Sharon has a gift for writing.  No joke.  Her last post "&lt;a href="http://sheworships.com/2008/09/24/everybodys-poop-looks-the-same/"&gt;Everybody's Poop Looks the Same&lt;/a&gt;," convinced me that only she could write a post about poop, and make it totally theological.  I'm not kidding.  Her last post was about poop, yet it was an amazing mediation.  I encourage you to read it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8617061191444393130?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8617061191444393130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=8617061191444393130&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='forgiveness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='neglect'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Johnny Fontaine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='love'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pain'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abuse'/><title type='text'>Emotional Scars and the Power of Forgiveness</title><content type='html'>A close friend of mine, Johnny Fontaine, otherwise known as &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Johnny Vontwizzle&lt;/span&gt; (since he met me anyway), has captured very poignantly in &lt;a href="http://hisgraceamazing.blogspot.com/2008/09/letter-to-my-father.html"&gt;a post on his blog&lt;/a&gt; his pain growing up with a less than perfect father who was neglecting, abusive, and played favorites.  What makes the post beautiful is that he also captures his heart's resolve to discover the power of forgiveness long after his father has passed away, and after many years of anger and bitterness.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Johnny Fontaine is a member at Walnut Street Baptist Church.  He was converted to Christianity about three years ago, and since then has walked with Christ in a battle to be clean from drug abuse, pure from sexual immorality, relationally connected to the people of God, and to be a true and sincere follower of Christ.        &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7743679801347022421?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7743679801347022421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' 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src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3250872031614856841</id><published>2008-09-19T16:02:00.038-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-22T15:52:36.010-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The 18:17 Principle'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tony Jones'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abortion'/><title type='text'>Justin Taylor ... My Hero</title><content type='html'>Thanks to &lt;a href="http://trevinwax.com/2008/09/19/in-the-blogosphere-73/"&gt;Trevin Wax&lt;/a&gt;, I had the chance to read &lt;a href="http://tonyj.net/2008/09/16/abortion/"&gt;a thread&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://tonyj.net/"&gt;Tony Jones' blog&lt;/a&gt; that included some very important discussion about abortion.  This is a classic example, in my opinion, about how the truth can come out in the comments more clearly than in the post, because the comment section gives people a chance to cross-examine ideas. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Proverbs 18:17 - "The first to plead his case seems right, until another [in this case Justin Taylor] comes and examines him." &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-3250872031614856841?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/3250872031614856841/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=3250872031614856841&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3250872031614856841'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3250872031614856841'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/09/justin-taylor-my-hero.html' title='Justin Taylor ... My Hero'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-5934036398454735168</id><published>2008-09-19T16:02:00.037-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-22T15:52:23.046-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Salvation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='heresy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justification'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sola fide'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Martin Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gospel'/><title type='text'>Brothers, Let us Embrace Heresy!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SNUzC89rICI/AAAAAAAAAU4/ELr18oiIQOw/s1600-h/College+Room+(29).JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SNUzC89rICI/AAAAAAAAAU4/ELr18oiIQOw/s320/College+Room+(29).JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5248157066587742242" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;I am through critiquing Luther's doctrine of baptism.  Now I am going to draw some implications from our post series that will conclude something that in the &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;prima facie&lt;/span&gt; will certainly seem quite absurd ... namely, that we should embrace heresy.  How would I ever come to such a conclusion?  Well ... the short of it is this.  The Reformed Traditions (at least in our day) have set up Luther as having recovered the gospel in his understanding of &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide,&lt;/span&gt; and anything that contradicts &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt; is considered heresy to many protestants.  The problem is, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt; must be defined historically according to what the major Reformers actually taught in their doctrine of &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt;.  As we have seen in our series on Luther's view of baptismal regeneration / justification by baptism / sacramental mediation, Luther's &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt; should be rejected.   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In short, if orthodoxy if defined by the Reformers, then I'd rather be a heretic&lt;/span&gt; (given Luther's soteriology).     &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Luther's arguments reveal something potentially shocking about his understanding of grace, salvation and faith which have important implications for how we understand the reformation slogan &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; (justification by faith alone) which has been accredited to Luther.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although it is far from the scope of this paper to present Luther's doctrine of justification, a fair summary of it can be given.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther supposedly believed that justification was a forensic declaration  in which a sinner is declared to be righteous on the formal basis of an alien righteousness through the instrumentality of faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The part of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; which needs to be re-examined in Luther's theology is the concept of instrumentality.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Many Reformed traditions held faith to be the &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sole&lt;/i&gt; instrumental cause of justification.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is, one is justified by faith alone—only faith and nothing else.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther is mistakenly thought to be the champion of this &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; doctrine which is thought to be wholly disjunctive with any "Roman Catholic" view of sacramental mediation of saving grace.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;For example, in a relatively recent treatment (2001) of doctrine throughout church history, John D. Hannah misrepresents Luther as believing in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; in such a way as to rule out sacramental mediation of saving grace.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His misunderstanding is rooted in a misinterpretation of Luther's phraseology of baptism as God's Word.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since Luther denies that water all by itself saves, but rather asserts salvation through the Word which is attached to the water and faith which receives it, Hannah concludes that Luther did not believe in the efficacy of the sacrament of baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"The sacraments, then, have a subjective function as a witness to faith in God's generosity; they do not have an objective function of being the actual means of acquiring God's grace."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, as we have seen, a quick overview of Luther's teaching in the catechism reveals that when Luther emphasizes God's Word in baptism, he does not have in mind the gospel &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;per say&lt;/i&gt;, and faith which receives the gospel &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Rather, he has in mind water baptism as God's promise of salvation (God's Word of promise) and faith in that promise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although this is clear from what we have already observed, the following quote from &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Babylonian Captivity&lt;/i&gt; makes this connection in Luther's mind more obvious.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;Thus you see how rich a Christian is, that is, one who has been baptized! Even if he would, he could not lose his salvation, however much he sinned, unless he refused to believe.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For no sin can condemn him save unbelief alone.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;All other sins, so long as the &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;faith in God's promise made in baptism&lt;/i&gt; returns or remains, are immediately blotted out through that same faith, or rather through the truth of God, because he cannot deny himself if you confess him and faithfully cling to him &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;in his promise&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But as for contrition, confession of sins, and satisfaction, along with all those carefully devised exercises of man: if you rely on them and neglect &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; truth of God, they will suddenly fail you and leave you more wretched than before.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For whatever is done without faith &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;in God's truth&lt;/i&gt; is vanity of vanities and vexation of spirit.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn3" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; [emphasis mine]&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The "truth of God" in this passage is God's promise to save through baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Unbelief" is unbelief in this promise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Perseverance is maintained only for those who "faithfully cling to him &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; his promise" [emphasis mine].&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Hannah seems to be completely unaware of Luther's basic paradigm for baptism as water comprehended in God's Word.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is hard to understand, if Hannah has read Luther on baptism, how he could possibly miss Luther's constant emphasis on baptism as the cause of all saving grace, and therefore the cause of justification.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn4" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although Luther did not believe that baptism could save unless faith is present, with faith present (whether before or after baptism), the sacraments are "'effective in the sense that they certainly and effectively impart grace where faith is unmistakably present."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn5" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;We know that wherever there is a divine promise, there faith is required, and that these two are so necessary to each other that neither can be effective apart from the other.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For it is not possible to believe unless there is a promise, and the promise is not established unless it is believed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;But where these two meet, they give a real and most certain efficacy to the sacraments&lt;/i&gt;. … Thus Christ says: "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn6" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; [Mark 16:16, emphasis mine]. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;When Luther says "it is not baptism that justifies or benefits anyone, but it is faith in that word of promise to which baptism is added,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn7" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; he is often misinterpreted (as with Hannah) as teaching a pure &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; which rules out baptism as efficacious for salvation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is a typical case of Reformed bias reading into Luther's theology what is not actually there.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Reformed tradition will have to look elsewhere for a pure &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; champion hero in the Reformation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's view of justification in the context of his theology of baptism can only be viewed as heretical in many Reformed traditions today.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Likewise, the modern Reformed traditions which hold to a &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; absent of sacramental mediation were considered heretical to Luther,&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn8" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and he considered faith in baptism as salvific as part of saving faith.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn9" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Hannah is also guilty of not reckoning with Luther's distinction between baptism as a work of God and not a work of human effort, which leads him to conclude that Luther could not have seen baptism as being an instrumental cause of the forgiveness of sins and of the removal of moral inability: "For Luther, water baptism does not cleanse the guilt and inability inherited through original sin.. … Thus, any notion of causative cooperation, even a gracious cooperation, is impossible because humankind has no merit to commend itself to God."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn10" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther, however, as we have seen, did not see baptism as man's work, but God's work.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, he did not see baptism as human merit commending itself to God, but as an act which "brings—victory over death and the devil, forgiveness of sin, God's grace, the entire Christ, and the Holy Spirit with his gifts."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn11" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In these two areas, Hannah reveals his bias by misrepresenting Luther.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;As should be blindingly unambiguous from reading Luther's arguments for baptismal regeneration and infant baptism, Luther believed in a sacramental mediation of all saving grace, and therefore the grace of justification would also be mediated by the sacrament of baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther not only allowed for "works" (baptism) to be an instrumental cause in saving grace, he demanded it with a passion, indicting anyone who opposed him as opposing God's Word.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since the slogans of the Reformation are usually attributed to Luther, this has implications for how we understand the doctrine of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; in its historical sense.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Is there really a singular "Reformed" position on the doctrine of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Do we understand it as the &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; of Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, or some other Reformer or Reformed Tradition?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This study also has implications for the &lt;span style="font-variant:small-caps"&gt;ect&lt;/span&gt; debate over &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are those evangelicals who signed the &lt;span style="font-variant:small-caps"&gt;ect&lt;/span&gt; documents compromising &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; because Rome believes in a sacramental mediation of saving grace?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are those who remain "faithful" to the Reformation the ones who rule out sacramental mediation or demand for sacramental mediation?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It seems that if we are going to define the Reformation by Luther's doctrine of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;, the latter would be the case.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn12" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Although the conclusions I have drawn may seem provocative and controversial, they simply flow from a study of Luther's doctrine of baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Reformed traditions have invested so much energy making Luther their Reformation hero, their ranks who defend &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; can hardly stand to read Luther for what he actually taught about baptism, and the implications it has for his doctrine of justification.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, they paint him with a biased brush for the sake of ecclesiological and theological expediency.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's views of baptism and his argumentation for baptismal regeneration and infant baptism demonstrate a lack of hermeneutical discernment in Luther as well as a lack of logical discernment.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While we can credit Luther with many good things, such as his emphasis on faith, repentance, and piety in an age of ritualistic notions of the sacraments that did not include sincere inner spirituality,&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn13" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; we should be very careful about defining orthodoxy and heresy based on the so-called "Reformed position."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If Luther's position on justification is the orthodox view known as &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;, then Reformation orthodoxy must be rejected and heresy must be embraced.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftn14" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;______________________&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;Footnotes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; John D. Hannah, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Our Legacy: The History of Christian Doctrine&lt;/i&gt; (Colorado Springs, CO: NavPress, 2001), 227-229.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 229.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the same vein, Hannah represents Luther has having a view in which "the symbol has no efficacy." Ibid.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse tries to correct this false interpretation of Luther's "sign" language (pardon the pun).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"When Luther at times used the word 'sign,' particularly in his doctrine of the Supper, that use may not be construed in Zwinglian terms.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther never intended the term to be merely 'symbolic.'" Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 300.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;           &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Martin Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/i&gt;, vol 36, Word and Sacrament II, 60. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn4" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; "Luther thus places baptism in the center of the Christian life.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His understanding of baptism exactly expresses his doctrine of justification.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Through the sacrament of baptism we are 'sacramentally' or 'because of the sacrament,' made completely pure and innocent in God's gracious judgment, that is, we are 'children of grace and justified persons'. … His doctrine of baptism is basically nothing else than his doctrine of justification in concrete form."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 356.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn5" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Martin Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/i&gt;, vol 36, Word and Sacrament II, 67.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn6" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 67. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn7" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 66. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn8" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Lohse recognizes that Luther accused the Anabaptists, for example, of "works-righteousness and even idolatry."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 305. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn9" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Faith in the Word of God in the context of Luther's theology of baptism means faith in baptism. "This is why Christ immediately adds, 'He who does not believe will be condemned' even though he is baptized, for it is not baptism, but faith in baptism, that saves."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 364.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn10" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Hannah, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Our Legacy&lt;/i&gt;, 227.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn11" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 442. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn12" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Leonardo De Chirico, however, understands the ECT project to be guilty of a lack of systemic awareness for upholding agreement over justification by faith on the one hand, and baptismal regeneration on the other.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Leonardo De Chirico, “Christian Unity vis-à-vis Roman Catholicism: A Critique of the &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Evangelicals and Catholics Together&lt;/i&gt; dialogue,” &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Evangelical Review of Theology&lt;/i&gt; 27 no. 4 (2003): 346. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn13" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther's doctrine of baptism must be seen as reactionary to prevalent medieval notions of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;ex opere operato&lt;/i&gt; which "tended to ritualize and desiccate baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In essence this Latin formula meant that the sacraments infused grace simply form the use of them, apart from any act of the soul. … Second, in the development of the medieval sacramental system, baptism tended to be associated only with the beginning of life, its chief role being to wash away the guilt of original sin."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Tranvik, "Luther on Baptism," 25. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=5934036398454735168#_ftnref" name="_ftn14" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Another important feature to Luther's arguments for infant baptism, which I did not have time to focus on, but which is probably almost as important is this: Luther held an extremely high view of tradition.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus points out the fact that although church tradition "is certainly not Luther's last word on the subject…it is certainly his first."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 359.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In Althaus' estimation, Luther had a "high evaluation of the universal tradition of the church," and used similar argumentation on other occasions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid, 363.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img 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height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-312072474022586015</id><published>2008-09-19T16:02:00.036-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-22T15:51:48.571-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Calvinists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SBC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arminians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calvinism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='arminianism'/><title type='text'>Expect More Anti-Calvinism Rhetoric</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SNQX7dVnfdI/AAAAAAAAAUA/Ror1aoS6hFY/s1600-h/pcc01.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SNQX7dVnfdI/AAAAAAAAAUA/Ror1aoS6hFY/s320/pcc01.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5247845776048487890" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;From  my limited perspective, it seems to be slowly becoming a fad for churches to do anti-Calvinism Conferences.  For example, the upcoming SBC president Johnny Hunt's church First Baptist Woodstock recently hosted an anti-Calvinism conference with some pretty big wig evangelicals (see &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/blog/2008/03/john-316-conference.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;When I received my latest copy of the Wester Recorder, there was an add that took up an entire page of the paper entitled, "&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Meeting the Calvinist Challenge: A Conference for All Those Seeking Biblical Answers to the Challenge of Calvinism&lt;/span&gt;."  It's being held at Clear Creek Baptist Bible College on October the 4th from 9:00am to 3:00pm.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here are the topics that will be addressed: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;1) Introduction to Calvinism&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2) Calvinism's Effect on the Public Invitation &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) Does the Gospel of John Teach Unconditional Election?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4) Questions to Ask Prospective Pastors&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;That last one is the one that scares me most.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Someone else has written a more extensive blog about it &lt;a href="http://www.founders.org/blog/2008/09/concerns-about-challenge-of-calvinism.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://drjamesgalyon.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/clear-creek-conference-on-calvinism/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SNQXZCa-fnI/AAAAAAAAAT4/erljYYJ21PA/s400/PCC02.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5247845184707657330" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:40px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  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/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Someone else (North East Reformation Society) who graduated from Clear Creek Baptist Bible College has given some thought to the conference &lt;a href="http://nemireformationsoc.blogspot.com/2008/09/disturbing-news-from-my-alma-mater.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinists, Arminians, Calvinists, Arminians, TULIP, TULIP, TULIP, TULIP, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism, Calvinism, Arminianism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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Finally, a balanced review of THE SHACK'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-4719924427924594269</id><published>2008-09-08T13:21:00.013-05:00</published><updated>2008-09-09T17:14:18.105-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Was Martin Luther Even a Christian?  A Critique of His Defense of Infant Baptism</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWDW1mFJaI/AAAAAAAAATo/4ZELbP0hr7s/s1600-h/P8230339.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWCx_eX4OI/AAAAAAAAATg/MWihPI11rJY/s1600-h/P8220114.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWCx_eX4OI/AAAAAAAAATg/MWihPI11rJY/s400/P8220114.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243741136506839266" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Some might say ... based on his defense of infant baptism, that Luther didn't really believe in the gospel.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In a previous post where I summarized Luther's doctrine of baptism, I gave a summary of each of his arguments for infant baptism as presented in the Large Catechism.  This post will take a close look at Luther's logic for defending infant baptism.  If you have not been following the post series so far, it is important to at least realize this: &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Luther was a virtual Roman Catholic when it comes to the saving efficacy of the sacraments. &lt;/span&gt; Luther did not believe in the same &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide &lt;/span&gt;that D.A. Carson, R.C. Sproul, and many other modern Reformed evangelicals consider to be fundamental to the gospel.  By R.C. Sproul's standards, Luther should be considered a non-Christian for not believing in his version of &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt;.  This is an inconvenient truth, for Sproul and many others with his position actually believe they are the modern champions of Luther's doctrine of justification.  But get this: Luther assumes that baptism saves, period.  As we have seen, he attempts to avoid the accusation of believing in salvation by works by retorting that Baptism is the work of God, and therefore not salvation by works (so argues Luther).  Now we will critique his attempt to establish the validity of infant baptism.  This post will be especially pertinent for baptists. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;Luther's Defense of Infant Baptism as Involving Logical Fallacies&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWAX1QfOyI/AAAAAAAAATI/6ALIy_vjIig/s400/P8230304.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243738488064391970" /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;                 The Historical Fallacy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Luther's first argument for infant baptism (based on the fact that infants who are baptized later demonstrate the fruits of the Spirit) commits the historical fallacy known as &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;post hoc, propter hoc&lt;/i&gt; ("the mistaken idea that if event B happened after event A, it happened because of event A,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His proposal begs an important question: Are the fruits of the Spirit caused by their baptism?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther assumes his doctrine of baptismal regeneration to prove his doctrine of infant baptism, but the former, as we have noted, has not been demonstrated on sound principles of interpretation.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn3" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His logic could be summarized like this: Since the only way you can possibly receive the Holy Spirit is through baptism (Luther's assumption), if an infant who is baptized is later shown to bear the fruits of the Spirit, we can safely conclude that their baptism "worked," and that God blesses infant baptism according to the promise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther assumes the very causal relationship between baptism and salvation which his critics would not be willing to grant.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Surely those critics who opposed Luther on infant baptism were not ready to concede that God saved infants through baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here we see the very same assumption we have previously observed Luther take for granted in his other arguments against those who deny baptismal regeneration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWAQTa6U9I/AAAAAAAAATA/DPyXi0WTXzU/s400/P8220067.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243738358722221010" /&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The second argument Luther makes in favor of infant baptism begs the same causal relationship as his first argument.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther basically applies the same logic to particular people, namely, the entire history of the church—particularly the early church fathers.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They were baptized in infancy, and we know that God gave them His Holy Spirit.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn4" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, Luther concludes that God has endorsed infant baptism in church history.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His further argument is that God would be in conflict with himself if he were giving the Holy Spirit to people who were baptized as infants if indeed the practice displeased Him.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;With this line of argument, Luther continues to assume the causal relationship between infant baptism and the salvation of the church.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I might use this same logic to prove that God obviously blesses sin, since all Christians have sinned by practicing infant baptism and yet God has given them the Holy Spirit.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It may have been (and indeed, I would argue was) in spite of their practice of infant baptism that God gave these men the Holy Spirit.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Furthermore, how would Luther ever be able to demonstrate that anyone who bore the fruits of the Spirit after infancy received the Holy Spirit at their baptism and not some time after their baptism?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther seems to be wholly unaware that his arguments will only work for those who share his assumptions about the sacramental limitation of saving grace in baptism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWB5oSKtJI/AAAAAAAAATQ/SDn0rzZuFVg/s1600-h/P8300035.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWB5oSKtJI/AAAAAAAAATQ/SDn0rzZuFVg/s400/P8300035.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243740168208954514" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Begging the Question &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;When Luther starts arguing that baptism is valid whether or not faith is present in the one being baptized, it is more difficult to follow his reasoning but easy to see that it is flawed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When Luther declares that a lack of faith does not "invalidate" baptism because "when the Word accompanies the water, Baptism is valid," he is continuing to beg the same question he has been begging in every argument we have examined so far.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn5" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His further argument that "Baptism does not become invalid even if it is wrongly received or used, for it is bound not to our faith but to the Word," simply means this: Since God promised to save through baptism without exception, we must assume he saves through baptism without exception.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Again, this begs the important question.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That "we know that God does not lie,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn6" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is not enough to prove his case, for only if we assume God promised salvation through baptism could we consider God a liar if baptism did not save an infant.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ambiguity and Equivocation &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;However, when Luther expands on this idea through illustration, his argument is further complicated by ambiguity.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First, Luther does not make clear whether he is speaking of "validity" from the vantage point of the one who administers the baptism, or from the vantage point of those who receive the baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The illustration of the deceitful Jew who tricks a minister into baptizing him fails to draw the distinction between validity from the vantage point of the dishonest Jew and validity from the vantage point of the administer of his baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The latter would be blameless in the matter.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As far as the rules by which the sacraments are supposed to be administered, he has administered validly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, the deceitful Jew has not experienced a valid baptism, because he was not only being baptized for the wrong motives, but without any faith in Christ whatsoever.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The major problem with Luther's argument for the "validity" of baptism without faith, therefore, could be described as either ambiguity or as committing the fallacy of equivocation (equivocating the on the term "validity").&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's illustration is supposed to ground his argument that the sacrament is valid without distinction, but his illustration only proves that baptism can still be administered validly even when it is not received validly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because of this, his claim that infant baptism is valid, is either too ambiguous to be proven, or if we assume he means "valid" in an unqualified sense, his illustrations do not help to prove the kind of validity necessary to make a case against his opponents.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWCbBf_QUI/AAAAAAAAATY/vhDrbCSVMIs/s400/P7120025.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243740741913493826" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Fallacy of False Analogy &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;There is another flaw with the illustrative part of Luther's defense.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Proving that the baptism can be validly administered to an adult who claims to have faith in Christ but does not (the Jew in Luther's illustration), is incapable of proving the validity of administering baptism to an adult who does not claim to have faith, much less an infant who cannot even claim to have faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If Luther's illustration cannot prove his claim that baptism should be administered whether or not the recipient has faith, much less is it able to prove the validity of infant baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His argument simply has no particular relevance to infant baptism, in which case the infant is not even claiming to have faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet this is what Luther is supposed to be proving—that infant baptism is valid because baptism in general remains valid even when "wrongly received or used."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn7" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There is not enough legitimate parallel in Luther's illustration to carry any weight towards defending infant baptism. &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;When Luther attempts to compare the Anabaptist position (that baptism is only valid if faith is present in the recipient) to the position that Christ is only Lord when people believe him to be so, he argues against a straw man.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The differences between these two positions should be painfully obvious, and they consequently nullify Luther's argument.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's argument assumes that if his opponents hold that the recipient of baptism must have faith in order for baptism to be valid, we must also grant that things other than baptism are only valid or genuine if someone has faith in them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther is embarrassingly sloppy at this point.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To say that faith is a necessary ingredient for a baptism to be valid (from the perspective of the recipient) is very different than holding that faith is a necessary ingredient for &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; to be genuine or valid.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther, therefore, although claiming simply to press the logic of his opponents to its absurd conclusion, is in fact pressing the position of his opponents beyond what their position logically demands.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus, Luther is guilty of caricaturizing his opponent's position.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We might return the fallacy by using the same logic against Luther, and so argue that his position (that baptism is valid even without faith) requires him to hold that the whole Christian life might be lived validly apart from any true faith.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWDW1mFJaI/AAAAAAAAATo/4ZELbP0hr7s/s400/P8230339.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5243741769509971362" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Incoherency Within Luther's Own Position&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;An important point to notice about Luther's defense of infant baptism is the tension which results from his separation of faith from the moment baptism is administered.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the one hand Luther holds that baptism is not efficacious unless it is "received by faith," but on the other hand he holds infant baptism to be "valid" even when the infant does not have faith before, during, or years after the baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The necessary inference which must be drawn, then, is that baptism is not always &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;immediately&lt;/i&gt; efficacious.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although, as we have already seen, Luther admonishes his readers to believe ("if you did not believe before [when you were baptized], then believe afterward and confess"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn8" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;), this does not resolve the tension between his holding to the efficacy of baptism on the one hand, and delayed effects of baptism on the other.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We might call this doctrine &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;delayed efficacy&lt;/i&gt;, and it is a definite tension which goes unresolved in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If Luther holds out this possibility—that faith need not be present at the moment of baptism or even years after—then Luther would be wrong to say that baptism is efficacious in the normal sense of sacramental efficacy.  It would have been more logically clean for Luther to hold that infants receive faith through the baptism rather than holding out the possibility of infant baptism with a delayed efficacy.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Another tension which is never resolved in Luther's framework involves his warning about separating faith from baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First of all, Luther himself is guilty of separating faith from baptism with his doctrine of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;delayed efficacy&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Secondly, his admonishment to others not to separate the two is out of place in his paradigm.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This second problem follows from the fact that real faith cannot exist apart from the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit, who, in Luther's paradigm, is received only through baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In other words, if faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not received until baptism, then it does not make sense to admonish anyone to "receive" their baptism in faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It would make more sense to admonish them to receive their faith in faith, but this does not comport well logically either.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Furthermore, if faith must come through baptism (unless God is a liar who promised the Holy Spirit in baptism, with all his gifts)—that is, if faith cannot &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;be a result of baptism—what need is there to warn people not to separate faith from baptism?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Given Luther's paradigm, there is no possible danger of separating faith from baptism, because faith is effectively produced in baptism by God himself.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn9" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet Luther insists on not administering baptism when faith is not present: "Baptism helps no one and is to be administered to no one unless he believes for himself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No one who does not personally believe is to be baptized."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn10" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's admonishments not to separate faith from baptism, then, are not fitting for two reasons: 1) He himself temporally separates the two from one another in infant baptism and 2) his view of efficacy makes such a separation impossible.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For these reasons, it is a logical headache to follow Luther in his incoherent attempt to justify infant baptism apart from faith.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftn11" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;______________________&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;footnotes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther was forced to use logic, because he admitted that there were no direct commands in the New Testament to baptize infants.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He thought that since the great commission was a simple command to baptize without any mention of faith as a condition, infant baptism was implicated in the command.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 303.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 361.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:.2in;text-indent:.5in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Carson, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Exegetical Fallacies&lt;/i&gt;, 133.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Karl Barth believed that "Luther's defense of infant baptism is sustainable once the presuppositions of his wider theology of baptism are admitted."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Trigg, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Baptism in the Theology of Martin Luther&lt;/i&gt;, 4.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is precisely because Luther's defense everywhere assumes his paradigm and begs the key questions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn4" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; It seems that Lohse misses this crucial part of Luther's argument at this point.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse summarizes this argument like this: "God would not have allowed something improper to be in force for so long."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 303.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, Luther's argument was not simply that infant baptism had always been practiced, but that unless God was giving his Holy Spirit through those baptisms, there would be no church.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"…in short, all this time down to the present day no man on earth could have been a Christian."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 441.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If baptism is the only way God gives his Holy Spirit, and the church members were all baptized in infancy not as adults—the Holy Sprit had to have been given through their baptism or else there would be no church.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus first gives a similar summarization as Lohse, but sees Luther as giving two arguments instead of one.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The second argument he summarizes like this: "It also must be said that if infant baptism were false and contrary to God's will, then there would have been no true baptism and thus also no church for more than a thousand years.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For without baptism there is no church."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 360.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther, however, never voices any such argument in the Catechism, but only speaks in terms of the Holy Spirit's being present in the church.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Perhaps Althaus is aware of a passage that would shed more light on what Luther meant in the Large Catechism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Otherwise it seems to be reading into the Luther's argument.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn5" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Lohse rightly recognizes that Luther appealed to "the concept of the sacrament as 'effective in itself' (&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;ex opere operato&lt;/i&gt;)" in his defense of infant baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 302. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn6" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 444. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn7" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn8" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn9" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; "Yet even if they could establish that children are without faith when they are baptized it would make no difference to me … for faith doesn't exist for the sake of baptism, but baptism for the sake of faith." &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Martin Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/i&gt;, vol 40, Church and Ministry II, 240-41.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn10" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Althaus quoting Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; 364.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=4719924427924594269#_ftnref" name="_ftn11" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Althaus says in regard to the problem of making faith necessary and still seeing infant baptism as valid, "Luther's thoughts about this are not always constant but are in a process of development."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 364.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-4719924427924594269?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/4719924427924594269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=4719924427924594269&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4719924427924594269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/4719924427924594269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/09/luthers-doctrine-of-baptism-critique.html' title='Was Martin Luther Even a Christian?  A Critique of His Defense of Infant Baptism'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SMWCx_eX4OI/AAAAAAAAATg/MWihPI11rJY/s72-c/P8220114.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7593443991092636689</id><published>2008-08-27T19:34:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-27T19:57:24.808-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Luther's Doctrine of Baptism, a critique, part 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SLX35PQ4PoI/AAAAAAAAASw/2o730nDtDeg/s1600-h/P8030260.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SLX35PQ4PoI/AAAAAAAAASw/2o730nDtDeg/s400/P8030260.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5239366304237371010" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's Limiting of Saving Grace to Baptism as Presumptuous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;One of the ways Luther attempts to acquit himself from teaching salvation by human works, as we have seen, is to claim that baptism is not merely an act done by men, but is ultimately God's act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;He answers the accuser like this: "Yes, it is true that our works are of no use for salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Baptism, however, is not our work but God's…"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther actually turned this accusation around by accusing those who claimed that salvation was by faith apart from baptism to actually be the ones who are trusting in human works instead of the work of God (baptism).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;This reveals a great deal about the way Luther drew his dividing lines between human works and God's gift of salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;That salvation is "not of works" does not, for Luther, rule out the possibility of salvation being by works in any sense, but only rules out works done apart from the divine and supernatural empowering of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Since Luther limited God's supernatural saving grace to the sacrament of baptism,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn3" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; trusting in anything but God's salvific work through baptism—including faith in Christ—is to be guilty of trusting in human works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn4" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Although there is in fact a great deal of truth in Luther's words of defense, he assumes without argumentation that God's saving work of grace is limited to the sacraments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is true that even our "good works" (such as obediently&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn5" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; submitting to Christ's command to be baptized) are done by the power of God's grace, and are thus ultimately God's work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is the Arminian mentality which divides certain parts of our obedience from God's grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Anything good we do at all—whether acts of the will, such as coming to Christ, or our bodily actions of obedience to God's commandments—it is all by the power of God's saving grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn6" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther is correct in assuming that grace is not to be conceived in opposing distinction to all works, but rather to anything done apart from the power of God's grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Therefore, that salvation is by grace and not of works does not necessarily mean that salvation and grace do not include works done by the power of the grace of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn7" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Thus, Luther's mistake is not in his dividing lines between works done in the power of God's grace (which Luther would say are ultimately God's works) and works done apart from God's work of grace (which are mere human works which profit nothing).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Rather, Luther's mistake is in his limiting God's saving grace to the sacrament of baptism, and as we have seen, this limitation is based on a particular interpretation of Mark 16:16 which Luther fails to demonstrate and which rests finally on an overly simplistic hermeneutic which does not take into account the totality of biblical teaching.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;As with his hermeneutic, Luther does not argue that whatever God effects he effects through the sacraments, he merely asserts it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Furthermore, the logic Luther uses here to clear himself from the charge of teaching works salvation ought also to prevent him from accusing his opponents of teaching a works-based salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;So long as his opponents hold that faith itself is God's work, he can no more charge them with believing in works salvation than he can himself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;I can hear Luther's opponents now, retorting back to Luther: "If those works which God does are not human works, and we hold that faith is a work which God does in us, then you cannot suspect or charge us with any belief in salvation by works just because we hold that faith comes apart from water baptism."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;When Luther limits salvific grace to the sacrament of baptism and therefore accuses anyone who thinks a man can be saved apart from water baptism as guilty of trusting in human works (works done apart from the grace of God), he fails to reckon with his own logic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;If his opponents do not assert that faith is a human work done apart from God's work, Luther would have to consequently withdraw his accusation based on his own principles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftn8" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;His attempt to justify himself and yet condemn his opponents is based on an uncharitable double standard.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;_____________________&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Footnotes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Luther, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; 441. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; See footnote 15.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;See paragraph 3 in "Baptism as God's Word Comprehended in Water."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn4" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; See footnote 15. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn5" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; I say "obediently" because it is possible to submit oneself for baptism without faith, and such an act would not be true obedience (Heb 11:6). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn6" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; I say "saving" grace to distinguish from what is called "common grace," which does not include the granting of true obedience. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn7" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; In fact, I would even go beyond Luther and claim that when the Apostle Paul speaks of "not having a righteousness of my own," (Phil 3:9) this does not by itself prove that the righteousness in which he wishes to be found on the last day is outside himself (an alien righteousness) or does not include good deeds done by the power of God's grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;That God's gift of righteousness is "not of our own" does not necessarily mean it does not consist within us or our good works any more than Paul's denial that it was him who "labored even more than all of them," but rather, "the grace of God with me," means that this grace did not include human labor (1 Cor 15:10, cf. Rom 2:4-16).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=7593443991092636689#_ftnref" name="_ftn8" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Luther also granted that faith was a work of God: "For faith is a work of God, not of man, as Paul teaches."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Martin Luther, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;, vol 36, Word and Sacrament II, ed. Abdel Ross Wentz, gen ed. Helmut T. Lehmann (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Muhlenberg Press, 1959), 62.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;   &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7593443991092636689?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7593443991092636689/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7593443991092636689&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7363750414490119188</id><published>2008-08-22T14:44:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-22T15:01:13.428-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Provocative Language'/><title type='text'>Mark Driscoll: Provocative = Biblical</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;"We have to use provocative language" - Mark Driscoll &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bJXOiyd7XO0&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=11645361&amp;amp;color2=13619151&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed 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href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/08/mark-driscoll-provocative-biblical.html' title='Mark Driscoll: Provocative = Biblical'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7662013223281669435</id><published>2008-08-15T11:43:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-15T12:59:22.456-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='formal logic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apologetics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='logic limitations'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='logic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='LSAT podcast'/><title type='text'>Limitations of Logic</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SKW7g-KG0II/AAAAAAAAASY/FrXlquhscm4/s1600-h/LSAT+logic+podcast.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SKW7g-KG0II/AAAAAAAAASY/FrXlquhscm4/s400/LSAT+logic+podcast.gif" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5234796317003665538" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Listen to Andrew Brody respond to my e-mail on his &lt;a href="feed://www.radiotpr.com/lsatpodcastfeed.xml"&gt;LSAT logic podcast entitled "Listener Logic #12&lt;/a&gt;.  I sent it in just a few days before this podcast and was surprised at the quick turnaround, and honored that he gave my questions so much attention.  People from all over the world listen to this podcast.  It's quickly become my favorite podcast.  &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my e-mail, I suggested that logic has major limitations in everyday life.  I also had in mind the larger principle that autonomous logic without "help" from intuition ("higher logic") and ultimately value commitments, which are &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;translogical,&lt;/span&gt; (like a commitment to the authority of revelation as in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism) leads to absurdity.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SKXD1KwbKnI/AAAAAAAAASo/8J8z2YJFFvU/s400/P7230178.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5234805460076014194" /&gt;&lt;div&gt;His response is interesting, as he agrees with me that autonomous "formal" logic is not sufficient, but his comment about "safe assumptions," leaves the ultimacy of what is or is not "logical" in the hands of relatively subjective intuition, which was my point in the first place.  Our intuition (our "higher logic") must weigh in very heavily when it comes to making major decisions in life.  For example, I believe that we all have a "knowledge of God" in our hearts (Rom 1:18-23), whether we are trained by formal logic to prove or disprove this knowledge.  We all also have consciences that inform us about ethical decisions quite apart from statistics or formal reasoning.  That's just the way God made us.  Discernment can inform a decision when autonomous logic leads to a dead end.   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Our ultimate presuppositions could fit into Brody's category of "safe assumptions," which brings us to the point--logic cannot be the ultimate authority.  If it were, we couldn't prove the laws of logic to be objectively authoritative in the first place, because we would have to assume they were authoritative in order to do so, which is circular reasoning.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How do we know that logic leads to objectivity if someone in China makes up a different set of logical rules?  Where do laws of logic come from?  How can we know that they are objective, transcultural, and therefore capable of objectivity?  Try to answer these questions without assuming logic, and you engage in circular reasoning.  Try to answer even with logic, and statistics will prove nothing.  Try to answer these questions from a broader "worldview" perspective, and you can makes sense of them.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SKXDeWovBTI/AAAAAAAAASg/_Z2w8okm0tU/s400/P8140045.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5234805068127995186" /&gt;&lt;div&gt;If our logic is a development in evolution, then we have no reason to trust them as having been adapted to the human mind because they help us attain objective knowledge about the real world (Alvin Plantinga gives a highly sophisticated philosophical argument to make this point, entitled &lt;a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2007/10/plantingas-norton-lectures-at-sbts.html"&gt;"Evolution vs. Atheism,"&lt;/a&gt;).  If our logic is informed by revelation, we can ground logic objectively, since it's not man-made but God-implanted.  In a Christian worldview, God made the logic of the human mind to assist us in obtaining real knowledge about the real world.  He made our minds to perceive reality and reality to be perceived by our minds, and he made logic as our helper in the more sophisticated inquiry's of the world.     &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7662013223281669435?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7662013223281669435/comments/default' 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url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SKW7g-KG0II/AAAAAAAAASY/FrXlquhscm4/s72-c/LSAT+logic+podcast.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-700371833518200307</id><published>2008-08-05T12:18:00.020-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-06T11:27:24.377-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Salvation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sacramentalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='justification'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sola fide'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sacraments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Martin Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='faith alone'/><title type='text'>Luther's Doctrine of Baptism, a critique, part 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SJifH2aOIaI/AAAAAAAAASQ/TqxvxDRL6jo/s1600-h/P5210028.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SJiecIuZ2sI/AAAAAAAAASI/0HFEM0xk3FU/s400/P8030321.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5231105173406472898" /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Review:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; In our last post we looked at Luther's doctrine of Baptism as systematically presented in his Large Catechism.  We noted that for Luther, baptism is "water comprehended in God's Word."  By "God's Word," Luther has two very specific aspects of God's Word in mind: 1) God's commandment to perform baptism in the great commission, and 2) God's promise to save those who are baptized.  Thus, for Luther, baptism is comprehensive in that it comprehends all of salvation---nothing less than God himself, along with all his gifts.  Baptism mediates &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; spiritual blessings.  Therefore, without it, no one can be a Christian.  Baptism does not merely symbolize salvation, it effects that which it symbolizes.  Luther counters the accusation that his gospel is works based by arguing that baptism is God's work, not a mere human work.  He also accuses those who trust in faith alone &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;apart from baptism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; as sufficient for salvation to be therefore trusting in something other than God's work--human works.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Thus, for Luther, to trust in faith alone as sufficient for salvation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; (apart from the sacramental mediation of grace through baptism) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;is to trust in a false gospel of human works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  If you find this shocking in light of Luther's famed reputation in Reformed circles as the one who defended &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;, welcome to the enlightening world of theological research. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;We will now proceed to critique Luther's view of baptism.  The critique must be broken down into three sections.  First I will show that Luther's hermeneutic is unproven and therefore vulnerable.  Second, I will attempt to argue that Luther's limiting of saving grace to the mediation of baptism is guilty of presumption.  Third, I will show that Luther engages in some logical fallacies when arguing for the rightness of infant baptism.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;A Critique of Luther's Paradigm and Argumentation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Some of Luther's arguments are valid.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;For example, if Luther's argument against those who say baptism is "of no use," is interpreted to be directed at "some left-wing radicals in the sixteenth century" who argued against practice of baptism altogether, his argument is simple but sound: "What God institutes and commands cannot be useless."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;However, it is the burden of this series of posts to show weaknesses in his argumentation, both in his hermeneutics and his logic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Therefore, we will only be focusing on those arguments which fit this purpose.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SJieBefTKMI/AAAAAAAAASA/hgJYHahMmsI/s400/P7140090.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5231104715392231618" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; "&gt;Luther's Basic Paradigm as Foundationally Flawed by a Wooden Hermeneutic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's paradigm of baptism as water comprehended in God's Word (i.e. God's promise of salvation) is based on the hermeneutical assumption that the promise in Mark 16:16 is to be taken at face value to teach that baptism is the instrumental cause of salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's argument for baptismal regeneration, therefore, is very similar to his argument for the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, where Luther also applies a wooden hermeneutic to Jesus' words of institution at the Last Supper, "This is my body" (Mt 26:26).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;While this kind of interpretation often worked in Luther's favor, in the case of his view of baptism (and I would argue, the Lord's Supper) this hermeneutic led him into grave error.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Nowhere is this assumption more clear than in the following quote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;In the second place, since we now know what Baptism is and how it is to be regarded, we must also learn for what purpose it was instituted, that is, what benefits, gifts, and effects it brings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Nor can we understand this better than from the words of Christ quoted above, "He who believes and is baptized shall be saved."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;To put it most simply, the power, effect benefit, fruit, and purpose of Baptism is to save.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;No one is baptized in order to become a prince, but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;as the words say&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;, to "be saved."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; [emphasis mine]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It could be argued that Mark 16:16 demands a different interpretation on the basis of the sound hermeneutical principle to interpret the implicit in the light of the explicit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;This principle, along with the fact that as the narrative continues in Acts, the Holy Spirit is given completely apart from any water baptism, is enough to cast reasonable doubt on Luther's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;prima facie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; interpretation of Mark 16:16.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn3" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Furthermore, how is this passage in the gospel narrative of Mark to be squared with other gospel narratives and more didactic genre's which seem to lay out the simple way of salvation without reference to baptism?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn4" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Moreover, such a simplistic interpretation of Mark 16:16 seems to violently set itself against Paul's mentality to the Corinthians: "I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. … For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel…" (1 Cor 1:17).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Any view of baptismal regeneration will have to see Paul's comments here as a false dichotomy which, at best, confuses his readers about the relation of baptism to the gospel and to salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;My point here is not necessarily to argue for a specific alternative interpretation of Mark 16:16 so much as it is to show that Luther never deals with the difficulties of his literal interpretation, nor does he argue for this interpretation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Rather, he simply assumes this interpretation based on an overly simplified hermeneutic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Most of his paradigm and argumentation from this point on, unfortunately, is based on this unchecked interpretation of Mark 16:16.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;This places the rest of Luther's teaching in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;The Large Catechism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; on a vulnerable foundation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;While Luther's assumption of a particular interpretation of Mark 16:16 can be seen as a lack of hermeneutical discernment, it can also be considered as a logical fallacy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;After this point in the catechism, Luther everywhere assumes his particular interpretation of this passage to argue against any view which does not see baptism as salvific.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;In doing so, Luther commits the fallacy of question begging,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn5" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; assuming what he has set out to prove.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Our know-it-alls, the new spirits, assert that faith alone saves and that works and external things contribute nothing to this end. … But these leaders of the blind are unwilling to see that faith must have something to believe—something to which it may cling and upon which it may stand [the promise of salvation in baptism].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Thus faith clings to the water and believes it to be Baptism in which there is sheer salvation and life, not through the water, as we have sufficiently stated, but through its incorporation with God's Word and ordinance and the joining of his name to it. … Now these people are so foolish as to separate faith from the object to which faith is attached and bound on the ground that the object is something external. … We have here the words, 'He who believes and is baptized will be saved.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;To what do they refer but to Baptism, that is, the water comprehended in God's ordinance?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn6" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Here Luther accuses those who say that faith saves apart from water baptism as being guilty of separating faith from its object of belief.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;How does this argument work in Luther's mind?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;If baptism is water comprehended in God's Word, and this means that it is water comprehended in God's promise of salvation, then faith in God's Word includes believing God's promise of salvation through baptism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Thus, for Luther, a faith which does not include faith in God's promise of salvation in baptism is not saving faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Faith must include faith in God's Word (i.e. God's promise that "whoever believes and is baptized will be saved").&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Basically, Luther's logic could be summarized like this: Since God promises to save through baptism, anyone who separates saving faith from belief in this promise has stripped faith of its content.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;As should be obvious, this entire argument is begging the million dollar question, for Luther's opponents obviously do not agree with his assumption that God has promised salvation through baptism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's argument begins by assuming what he has set out to prove—that baptism is water comprehended in God's Word (i.e. God's promise of salvation in baptism).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;If God has not promised salvation through baptism, then to deny baptism of salvific power would not involve separating the water from God's Word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;In fact, as many would want to argue (myself included), to add such a meaning to baptism is to distort the totality of biblical teaching about salvation and thus shroud God's Word of promise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's ill conceived paradigm of baptism as "water comprehended in God's Word" accounts for all the radical things he teaches about baptism in the catechism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;When Luther says God's commandment and promise are "added to" the water, he means the same thing as when he says baptism is water "comprehended" in God's Word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Likewise, when Luther says that God's Word is "attached" to the sacrament, he has both the command to baptize and the promise of salvation in mind: "For the nucleus in the water is God's Word or commandment and God's name."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn7" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is also on the basis of God's Word being "attached" to the sacrament that Luther makes his claim that baptismal water is not just water, but divine water.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is nothing else than a divine water, not that the water in itself is nobler than other water but that God's Word and commandment are added to it….This shows that it is not simple, ordinary water, for ordinary water could not have such an effect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn8" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Hence it is well described as a divine, blessed, fruitful, and gracious water, for through the Word Baptism receives the power to became the "washing of regeneration," as St. Paul calls it in Titus 3:5.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn9" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is on the basis of God's command and promise that water becomes a divine sacrament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;From the Word it derives its nature as a sacrament.… This means that when the Word is added to the element or the natural substance, it becomes a sacrament, that is, a holy, divine thing and sign.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn10" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;When Luther says that baptism "contains and conveys all the fullness of God,"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn11" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; he is best understood as meaning that through it we receive God's work of salvation which includes nothing less than God himself—the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;This Spirit gives inner renewal (regeneration), the granting of faith in Christ, and the granting of repentance, which Luther speaks of in terms of being delivered from the bondage of sin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;This gift is nothing less than eternal life in the kingdom of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Given this paradigm, it is difficult to think of anything which is not comprehended in some way by Luther's doctrine of baptism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;To put it most simply, the power, effect, benefit, fruit, and purpose of Baptism is to save.… To be saved, we know, is nothing else than to be delivered from sin, death, and the devil and to enter into the kingdom of Christ and live with him forever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn12" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:27.35pt"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;He always has enough to do to believe firmly what Baptism promises and brings—victory over death and the devil, for&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;giveness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; of sin, God's grace, the entire Christ, and the Holy Sprit with his gifts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[It is] priceless medicine which swallows up death and saves the lives of all men.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn13" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Any and all spiritual blessings whatsoever which are able to be experienced in this life are received immediately through water baptism, which blessings secure those eternal blessings which are still to come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;To be baptized, then, is to do nothing less than receive God and inherit the world with Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;In fact, "even the traditional description of baptism as a 'means of grace' is a less than felicitous phrase because it suggests the presence of something other than God himself."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn14" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;It is no wonder that when Luther was in the midst of spiritual assaults (whatever those were about), instead of claiming the alien righteousness of Christ for himself, he "relied on baptism."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftn15" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[15]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;   This is not the poster boy Luther of Reformed Orthodoxy's rhetorical propaganda, but it is the real Luther.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;In our next post, we will see that in addition to Luther's vulnerable hermeneutic, his sacramental limitation of grace is guilty of presumption.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-bidi-Times New Roman&amp;quot;;mso-ansi-language: EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-USfont-family:&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SJifH2aOIaI/AAAAAAAAASQ/TqxvxDRL6jo/s400/P5210028.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5231105924404224418" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;______________________&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Footnotes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Luther, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Book of Concord&lt;/span&gt;, 437.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 439.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.2in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; See esp. Acts 8:14-17, Acts 10:44-48.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn4" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; See esp. Acts 10:43, Romans 1:16-17, 3:22, 10:9-13, Eph 2:8-9.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn5" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Or by Carson's categories, we might call it the fallacy of mere emotional appeal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;D.A. Carson, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Exegetical Fallacies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;, second&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; ed. (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Books House Co., 1996), 106-07.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther's appeal ("these leaders of the blind are unwilling to see that…") is similar to the example Carson gives of Prof. Smith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;"Sometimes a mild case of emotional abuse occurs when one writer responds to another with some such phrasing as this: 'Astonishingly, Prof. Smith fails to take into account the fact that. . . .'"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn6" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Luther, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; 440.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;Luther has intentionally prepared his readers to be ready for this argument by&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;emphasizing the necessity of not separating the water from the Word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;"I therefore admonish you again that these two, the Word and the water, must by no means be separated from each other." Luther, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; 439.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn7" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 438.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn8" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 438-39.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn9" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 440.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn10" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 438.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn11" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 438.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn12" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 439.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn13" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 442.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn14" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Tranvik, "Luther on Baptism," 31.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=700371833518200307#_ftnref" name="_ftn15" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;[15]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; Ibid., 24.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-700371833518200307?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/700371833518200307/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=700371833518200307&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/700371833518200307'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/700371833518200307'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/08/review-in-our-last-post-we-looked-at.html' title='Luther&apos;s Doctrine of Baptism, a critique, part 1'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp3.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SJiecIuZ2sI/AAAAAAAAASI/0HFEM0xk3FU/s72-c/P8030321.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-8058614903419013294</id><published>2008-07-28T20:34:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-07-28T22:33:24.999-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Martin Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gospel'/><title type='text'>Luther's Doctrine of Baptism, the Large Catechism</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI55TAcOHiI/AAAAAAAAARw/gma9HP53qdQ/s1600-h/P7180041.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI55TAcOHiI/AAAAAAAAARw/gma9HP53qdQ/s400/P7180041.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5228249584866565666" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"&gt;The Large Catechism&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; Our study begins with &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt; for at least three reasons: 1) it is Luther's explicitly systematic approach to the doctrine of baptism, 2) its brevity makes it more fitting for this short post series because it enables a more detailed treatment, and 3) &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt; was written well after the initial controversy of the Reformation and thus can be representative of the "older" Luther.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One cannot begin to understand where to start a critique of Luther's arguments for baptismal regeneration and infant baptism unless one first comprehends his basic framework for understanding the nature of baptism—namely, that baptism is "water comprehended in God's Word and commandment."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Once Luther argues for this definition of baptism in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt;, he bases most (if not all) of his varied polemical argumentation squarely on this foundation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He uses this view of baptism against non-salvific views of baptism, against those who deny the validity of infant baptism, against those who would require faith before baptism, and against those who would desire a rebaptism under any circumstance.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, it is crucial to understand Luther's teaching on the nature of baptism in order to appreciate and evaluate his polemical argumentation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI52Q0qGqmI/AAAAAAAAARQ/gnLwhJN2hHw/s400/P6200146.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5228246248808950370" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;Baptism as God's Word Comprehended in Water&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; Luther begins his treatment of baptism in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt; by giving a strong statement about the importance of having a good grasp on the two sacraments: "because without these no one can be Christian."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn3" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His treatment is intended to be systematic, including all things necessary to know concerning baptism.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn4" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As we might expect from Luther, his teaching begins by quoting in full the two verses on which the rest of his teaching in the catechism is virtually a commentary—namely, Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:16.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn5" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These two verses contain God's commandment as well as God's promise, both of which demonstrate the opposite of the teaching of certain "sects" who were teaching that since baptism is an external thing, it is "of no use."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn6" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since the Lord has both commanded it ("go and baptize," Mt 28:19) and has promised to save us through it ("whoever believes and is baptized will be saved," Mk 16:16), baptism is water "comprehended in God's Word and commandment and sanctified by them."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn7" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That baptism is to be performed "in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" means that "to be baptized…is to be baptized not by men but by God himself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although it is performed by men's hands, it is nevertheless truly God's own act."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn8" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus baptism is to be distinguished from human works and achievements to which we tend to attach "greater importance."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn9" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;The fact that God's Word (the promise of salvation) is attached to baptism is sufficient (in Luther's mind) to defeat the skeptics who say, "How can a handful of water help the soul?" (i.e. anyone who would deny baptismal regeneration).&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn10" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here Luther spends most of his catechismal energy.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Not only are those who claim that baptism is merely an external sign having no spiritual effect "so foolish as to separate faith from the object [Gods Word] to which faith is attached and bound," but Luther argues that they miss the point that God's grace has been limited to being distributed only through the external sacraments.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Yes, it must be external so that it can be perceived and grasped by the sense and thus brought into the heart, just as the entire Gospel is an external, oral proclamation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In short, whatever God effects in us he does through such external ordinances."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn11" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, faith alone will not do, because although "faith alone makes the person worthy to receive the salutary, divine water profitably,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn12" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; faith apart from the actual administration of the sacrament of baptism is nothing but a faith which is mustered up apart from the power of God's grace and severed from God's Word—and thus it is a human work.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn13" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Such faith is just as shaky ground for salvation as any other human work.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn14" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;The Comprehensiveness and Permanency of Baptism&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Since baptism includes nothing less than all of salvation and God himself, Luther concludes that in the teaching about baptism, "every Christian has enough to study and to practice all his life."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther considers all sanctification and repentance as nothing more than a "walking in Baptism,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn15" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[15]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and "a Christian life is nothing else than a daily Baptism, once begun and ever continued."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn16" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;[16]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus, when we find ourselves spiritually weak, having fallen into sin, or having pangs of conscience, we simply need to "draw strength and comfort from" our baptism, and "retort, 'But I am baptized!'"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn17" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[17]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"When this amendment of life does not take place but the old man is given free reign and continually grows stronger, Baptism is not being used but resisted."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn18" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[18]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;With this logic, Luther is ready to concede that penance is sufficiently entailed in baptism and forever rid the need of separating these two as separate sacraments.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn19" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[19]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI54HBSdgoI/AAAAAAAAARg/b5EnTNUJ0Tc/s400/P7180015.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5228248279424008834" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;Justification for Infant Baptism&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character: footnote"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn20" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;[20]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Luther's teaching that through baptism we receive "perfect holiness and salvation"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn21" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[21]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; raises a question in his catechism about infant baptism which leads him into a lengthy defense of it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The question is whether "children" [and by this he means infants&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn22" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[22]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;] also believe, and is it right to baptize them?"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn23" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[23]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther's first line of argument is from the effects of baptism as seen in those who were baptized as infants.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since only through baptism can one receive God's Spirit and new life, when those who were baptized as infants live a life that attests "that they have the Holy Sprit," they prove that God was pleased to bless their baptism and that infant baptism is pleasing to Him.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn24" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[24]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The next defense is an argument from church history.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since infant baptism has been practiced and received by even all the early church fathers and through the ages and God has gifted these men and the church through the ages with the Holy Spirit, therefore God obviously is pleased with the practice, "for he can never be in conflict with himself, support lies and wickedness, or give his grace and Spirit for such ends. … For no one can take from us or overthrow this article, 'I believe one holy Christian church, the communion of saints,' etc."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn25" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[25]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The nature of validity is Luther's next argument for infant baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He argues that the "validity" of baptism does not depend on faith because its validity depends only on God's Word, and God does not lie.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn26" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[26]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"When the Word accompanies the water, Baptism is valid, even though faith be lacking.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For my faith does not constitute Baptism but receives it."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn27" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[27]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even if baptism is "wrongly received or used,"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn28" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[28]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; this would not make it invalid.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther illustrates this with a hypothetical case in which a Jew who does not really believe in Christ pretends that he wished to become a Christian and allows himself to baptized by the church.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Would the baptism then be "invalid"?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Obviously not, Luther thinks.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we admit that the way one receives a sacrament has the power to nullify its validity, we would have to say that those who take the Lords Supper unworthily do not receive the "real" sacrament.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn29" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[29]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther attempts to press the logic of the dissenters into absurdity: "Likewise I might argue, 'If I have no faith, then Christ is nothing.'&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or again, 'If I am not obedient, then father, mother and magistrates are nothing.'"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn30" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[30]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Finally, the reformer attempts to reverse the objection that lack of faith makes a sacrament "invalid," based on the "saying" that "Misuse does not destroy the substance, but confirms its existence."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn31" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[31]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While arguing that the validity of baptism does not depend on faith, he revealingly urges his readers, "Therefore, I say, if you did not believe before [when you were baptized], then believe afterward and confess, 'The Baptism indeed was right, but unfortunately I did not receive it rightly.'"&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn32" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[32]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To urge the importance of faith for all who are baptized is necessary, but to hold that the validity of baptism depends on faith is, to Luther's sensibilities, quite absurd.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI547BUMLII/AAAAAAAAARo/6HP5mO1FtgM/s1600-h/P6250175.JPG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI547BUMLII/AAAAAAAAARo/6HP5mO1FtgM/s400/P6250175.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5228249172784458882" style="float: left; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"&gt;Baptism as Symbolic&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Although baptism is not merely symbolic for Luther, it does signify the very grace it imparts to the faithful recipient.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is, it signifies nothing less than death to sin, and the resurrection of the new man, "both of which actions must continue in us our whole life long."&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftn33" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[33]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Baptism, therefore, both signifies and conveys salvation to the recipient who receives baptism in faith—regardless of whether this receiving in faith takes place at the actual administration of baptism or later in life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;In our next post we will critique Luther's view of Baptism.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;____________________&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Footnotes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Trigg argues that most studies done on Luther focus more on the younger Luther at the expense of the older Luther, and that this is especially true with regard to his view on Baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jonathan D. Trigg, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Baptism in the Theology of Martin Luther&lt;/i&gt; (New York, New York: E.J. Brill, 1994), 9.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although Trigg specifically mentions a neglect of Luther's theology of baptism after 1530, we might safely assume that if Luther's catechism was never revised, and no further data demonstrates a significant change in his view, his teaching in the Large Catechism thus represents fairly the view which he held until the day of his death.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, because we are dealing with the late Luther, we will not be engaging his arguments for infant baptism which include arguments concerning the faith of sponsors.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;According to Althaus, this was an argument which Luther eventually quit using anyway.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Paul Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Martin Luther,&lt;/i&gt; trans Robert C. Schultz (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Fortress Press, 1966), 364.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Martin Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord: The Confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church&lt;/i&gt;, trans. Theodore G. Tappert (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Muhlenberg Press, 1959), 438.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;By "comprehended," Luther means something like, "seen from the vantage point of," or "empowered by."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn3" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[3]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 436.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn4" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[4]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; "In order that it may be readily understood, we shall treat it in a systematic way and confine ourselves to that which is necessary for us to know."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid, 436.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn5" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[5]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The command: "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" (Mt 28:19).&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The promise: "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who had disbelieved shall be condemned" (Mk 16:16). &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn6" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[6]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 437.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is not completely clear whether Luther has in mind sects who teach that baptism is of no use for salvation, or of no use whatsoever.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Since he later argues against the former, I am inclined to think this is who he has in mind here.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The editor leaves the following footnote: "This was an argument used by some left-wing radicals in the sixteenth century."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But this does not tell us which radicals he had in mind.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn7" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[7]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 438.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As we will see later, this basic paradigm accounts for all the radical things Luther says about baptismal water, the utter reliability of baptism even if the recipient has no faith, the efficacy of baptism, and baptism as conveying more than just grace, but God himself.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn8" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[8]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 437.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Herein also is Luther's response to those who accuse him of believing in salvation by works.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Yes, it is true that our works are of no use for salvation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Baptism, however, is not our work but God's…"&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 441. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn9" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[9]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 438. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn10" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[10]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 438.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here Luther more clearly does not have in mind those who say that baptism is "of no use," whatsoever, but anyone who would deny baptism to be a work which literally saves the soul.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is, since God has commanded baptism and promised salvation through it (Mk 16:16), that is enough to silence any critic who would ridicule the notion of baptismal regeneration.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Our know-it-alls, the new spirits, assert that faith alone saves and that works and external things contribute nothing &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;to this end&lt;/i&gt;. … But these leaders of the blind are unwilling to see that faith must have something to believe—something to which it may cling and upon which it may stand [the promise of salvation in baptism].&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus faith clings to the water and believes it to be Baptism in which there is sheer salvation and life, not through the water, as we have sufficiently stated, but through its incorporation with God's Word and ordinance and the joining of his name to it." [emphasis mine]&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 440.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn11" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[11]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 440.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Later, I will refer to this in terms of a &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sacramental limitation&lt;/i&gt; of saving grace. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn12" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 440.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"God's works [such as baptism], however, are salutary and necessary for salvation, and they do not exclude but rather demand faith, for without faith they could not be grasped.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Just by allowing the water to be poured over you, you do not receive Baptism in such a manner that it does you any good.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But it becomes beneficial to you if you accept it as God's command and ordinance, so that, baptized in the name of God, you may receive in the water the promised salvation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This the hand cannot do, nor the body, but the heart must believe it. … Actually, we insist on faith alone as so necessary that without it nothing can be received or enjoyed."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 441.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn13" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[13]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Tranvik argues that Luther saw pre-baptism faith as a human work, not the work of God, and thus he considered anyone who believed faith came before baptism to be in the same heretical camp with Rome, trusting in human works and denying the gospel.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Therefore, one dare not base his baptism on his faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For who can be sure if he really believes?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Enthusiasts' stress on subjectivity, like the late medieval view of penance and monasticism, troubles Luther because it put the question of salvation back into the hands of a frail and doubting humanity. … From Luther's perspective, the dispute with the Enthusiasts is not merely about the nature of material things and whether or not they can be mediums of the divine.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Rather, the gospel itself is at stake.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;… In his conflict with enthusiasm, Luther suspects that faith itself is being idolized, the very faith that is subject to the vagaries of human moods and emotions.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Faith simply cannot bear that burden and remain salvific.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Again, as was the case with Rome, Luther believes the enthusiasts are shrouding the life-giving promise.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God must move from the external to the internal.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To reverse the order is to make faith a work and set up a pernicious &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;ordo salutis&lt;/i&gt; based on law.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What Luther did was expose the essential nomism of the Enthusiasts." Tranvik, "Luther on Baptism," 32-33.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"And he most sharply rejects the attempt to determine whether or not an adult believes, particularly in the form in which it was practices by the Baptists."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;The Theology of Marin Luther&lt;/i&gt;, 365.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther considered the Anabaptists to be sects of the devil.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Here we come to a question by which the devil confuses the world through his sects, the question of infant Baptism."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord&lt;/i&gt;, 442.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;           &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn14" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[14]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; "I say the same thing about the baptized one who receives or grounds his baptism on his faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For he is not sure of his own faith….Neither the baptizer nor the baptized can maintain his position, for both are uncertain of their faith, or at least are in constant peril and anxiety. … For the verse does not say, 'Whoever knows that he believes, or, if you know that anyone believes,' but it says, 'Whoever believes.' Who has it, has it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One must believe, but we neither should nor can know it for certain."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Martin Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Luther's Works&lt;/i&gt;, vol 40, Church and Ministry II, ed. Conrad Bergendoff, gen ed. Helmut T. Lehmann (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Muhlenberg Press, 1960), 240-41. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[15]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 445.      &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn16" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[16]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 445. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn17" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[17]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 442. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn18" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[18]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 445. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn19" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[19]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 445. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn20" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[20]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Although Luther did argue elsewhere that "Children must believe for themselves and must believe at the time of baptism," he does not make this argument in the Large Catechism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Theology of Marin Luther&lt;/i&gt;, 365.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Althaus' summary, however, is helpful to understand Luther's argument that infant baptism does not depend on faith but on the Word of promise: "Children are to be baptized not because it can be proved they believe, but because infant baptism is scriptural and the will of God. … He is certain that children believe because infant baptism is right and valid—and for no other reason."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid, 365. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn21" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[21]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 442. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn22" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[22]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; In the beginning of the next paragraph he uses the word "infant" as a synonym: "But if you wish to answer, then say: That the Baptism of infants is pleasing to Christ is sufficiently proved from his own work."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 442. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn23" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[23]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 442. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn24" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[24]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 442.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Now, if God did not accept the Baptism of infants, he would not have given any of them the Holy Spirit nor any part of him: in short, all this time down to the present day no man on earth could have been a Christian."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 442-43.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn25" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[25]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn26" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[26]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; "I myself, and all who are baptized, must say before God: 'I cannot build on the fact that I believe and many people are praying for me.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On this I build, that it is thy Word and command.'&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We bring the child with the purpose and hope that he may believe, and we pray God to grant him faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But we do not baptize him on that account, but solely on the command of God.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because we know that God does not lie."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid., 443-44.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn27" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[27]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although Lohse says that "Luther gave centrality to the duality of 'promise' (&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;promissio&lt;/i&gt;) and 'faith' (&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;fides&lt;/i&gt;)," he actually gave more prominence to promise and command, since he held that baptism depended only on these, and therefore is "valid" though faith "be lacking."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology&lt;/i&gt;, 300.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn28" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[28]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Luther, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The Book of Concord,&lt;/i&gt; 443. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn29" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[29]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;"Similarly, those who partake unworthily of the Lord's Supper receive the true sacrament even though they do not believe."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn30" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[30]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 444. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn31" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[31]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 444. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn32" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[32]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 443. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=17053182&amp;amp;postID=8058614903419013294#_ftnref" name="_ftn33" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[33]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Ibid., 445.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8058614903419013294?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8058614903419013294/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=8058614903419013294&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8058614903419013294'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8058614903419013294'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/07/luthers-doctrine-of-baptism-large.html' title='Luther&apos;s Doctrine of Baptism, the Large Catechism'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SI55TAcOHiI/AAAAAAAAARw/gma9HP53qdQ/s72-c/P7180041.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6567997756243194310</id><published>2008-07-22T23:53:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2008-07-23T00:16:03.228-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Luther's Doctrine of Baptism, intro</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SIa81q9AP2I/AAAAAAAAAQ4/3S_hAH0df4s/s1600-h/P6100067.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SIa81q9AP2I/AAAAAAAAAQ4/3S_hAH0df4s/s400/P6100067.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5226072047859285858" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;The next several posts will be about Luther's doctrine of baptism.  The point is to critique his doctrine and show that by the standards of many of today's defenders of reformed orthodoxy, Luther didn't really believe the gospel.  This is because Luther didn't really believe in &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sola fide&lt;/span&gt;, which many of today's defenders of reformed orthodoxy think is the essence of the gospel.  Of course, I think Luther believed the gospel.  But that's because my understanding of the gospel is more basic than notions of the gospel that developed during the polemics of the Reformation. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;Although teachers from Reformed traditions tend to venerate Luther as the great reformer who rescued the church from a sacramental understanding of salvation to an understanding of salvation by faith alone apart from any external "works," [as understood by today's defenders of reformed orthodoxy] this caricature could not be further from the truth.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the one hand, Luther scratched five of the seven sacraments off the sacred list.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the other hand, when it came to a sacramental paradigm, Luther was virtually Roman Catholic.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn1" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course, as one might expect, in his polemics against Rome he emphasized the need for faith.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Nevertheless, as we will see, in his polemics against certain protestant sects, Luther both denied the need for faith during the administration of baptism and boasted in the efficacy of the sacrament as conferring nothing less than the fullness of salvation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While in different polemical contexts, Luther's teaching on baptism had radically different emphases, his basic understanding of baptism never underwent a substantial change.&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn2" name="_ftnref" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;This blog series is an attempt to survey the great reformer's most basic teaching concerning baptism in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt; in order to orient the reader to his basic sacramental paradigm for baptism, demonstrate that this framework of thought for baptismal regeneration and infant baptism in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;Large Catechism&lt;/i&gt; is foundationally dependent upon an unproven hermeneutical judgment and that Luther's defense of it is entangled in a number of logical fallacies.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the conclusive post, I will make a brief suggestion concerning what significance Luther's view of baptism bears on the interpretation of the Reformation slogan attributed to him—&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SIa9HCy9KHI/AAAAAAAAARA/Je5TLo-V8dE/s400/P6140074.JPG" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5226072346317367410" /&gt;  &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote-list"&gt;   &lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;    &lt;div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftnref" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Lohse makes the judgment that although Luther "with his emphasis on the strict correlation of baptism and faith…gave new accent to traditional baptismal theology…on the whole [he] did not attack it."&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Bernhard Lohse, &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Martin Luther's Theology: Its Historical and Systematic Development&lt;/i&gt;, trans. Roy A. Harrisville (Minneapolis, Minnesota: Fortress Press, 1999), 303.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lohse also recognizes that Luther appealed to "the concept of the sacrament as 'effective in itself' (&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"&gt;ex opere operato&lt;/i&gt;)" in his defense of infant baptism.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ibid, 302.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText" style="text-indent:.7in"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftnref" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-special-character:footnote"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Mark D. Tranvik, "Luther on Baptism," &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"&gt;Harvesting Martin Luther's Reflections on Theology, Ethics, and the Church&lt;/i&gt;, ed. Timothy J. Wengert (Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2004), 24.&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-6567997756243194310?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/6567997756243194310/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=6567997756243194310&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6567997756243194310'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6567997756243194310'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/07/next-several-posts-will-be-about.html' title='Luther&apos;s Doctrine of Baptism, intro'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp2.blogger.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SIa81q9AP2I/AAAAAAAAAQ4/3S_hAH0df4s/s72-c/P6100067.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3020398809694422375</id><published>2008-06-14T12:18:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-06-14T12:29:53.572-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bibliolaters'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethical dilema'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bibliolatry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='loving people'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Love of people'/><title type='text'>ithink: Against the Bibliolaters</title><content type='html'>What's more important: &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the Bible or people?&lt;/span&gt;  Of course, the Bible is the chief authority on all matters of ethical judgment, and the Bible is the very voice of God which teaches us to love others, thus loving others cannot be set against the Bible as if the question were: What's more important, the Bible's teachings or loving others?  The Bible itself points us to consider love for God and love for people the supreme standard by which all ethical/moral decisions must be decided.  But consider the following scenario: &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you lived on a deserted island, forever stranded but with food supply and a daughter of the age of 3, and your shack is burning down, and you have only enough time to grab either your only copy of the Bible, or your precious and beautiful daughter--which do you save?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the answer to this question is tough for you, perhaps you don't love the Bible as much as you think you do, and the title of the post therefore applies.    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-3020398809694422375?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/3020398809694422375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=3020398809694422375&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3020398809694422375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3020398809694422375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/06/ithink-against-bibliolaters.html' title='ithink: Against the Bibliolaters'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-887585475421276729</id><published>2008-05-29T13:52:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-29T14:36:29.963-05:00</updated><title type='text'>das Gefühl ad nauseam: Friedrich Schleiermacher's Paradigm for Christian Theology</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8CxJej9TI/AAAAAAAAAQU/W9j96rMUfO8/s1600-h/P5170340.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5205882737644533042" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8CxJej9TI/AAAAAAAAAQU/W9j96rMUfO8/s400/P5170340.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Although the name &lt;strong&gt;Schleiermacher (1768-1834) &lt;/strong&gt;is notoriously hard to spell, his name appears in every serious treatment of contemporary theology precisely because his theology is just as notoriously hard to &lt;em&gt;ex&lt;/em&gt;pel from the influence of Christian thought. He is not called the "Father of Liberalism" without good reason. His "children" still carry out his basic paradigm in contemporary theological development. If we can speak of the history of Western Philosophy in terms of Pre- and Post-Kantian, then perhaps we could almost just as easily speak of Christian theology as Pre- or Post-Schleiermachian. His influence is not easily exaggerated. How did Christianity go from a reliance on biblical revelation, belief in the supernatural, reliance on a personal creator God, and defining its core in terms of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth, to a reliance on philosophy, an allergic reaction to the supernatural, reliance on personal subjective consciousness, and defining its core in terms of grand feeling (&lt;em&gt;das Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;) of dependence on the greater whole of existence? Although it may seem quite a leap for Schleiermacher to go from a conservative Pietist upbringing to a completely new paradigm for Christian theology, to be sure, his thought did not develop in a vacuum. By paying close attention to the effect of Enlightenment ideas on his generation, it becomes easier to see how Schleiermacher's views, though a great leap from historical Christianity, was more like a baby step from the sentimental philosophical paradigm which was gaining popularity in his day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Romanticism's Apparent Influence on Schleiermacher&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The latter period of the Enlightenment (in which Schleiermacher was born) began to see reactions against reason's claim to supremacy and sufficiency for all knowledge. Many began to look at a reduction of reality to neat scientific and rational formulations as a gross misrepresentation of the complexity of reality. As a result of the late eighteenth and nineteenth century &lt;strong&gt;Romanticism&lt;/strong&gt;, mystery and imagination fought for the honored seat at the round table of legitimate expressions of that transcendant reality. The Romantics, as they were called, did not believe that ultimate reality could be known to finite human minds. Science and formal reason, they argued, are only one kind of "logic" by which humans make decisions of value and truth—and not even the most important kind either. After all, people do not tend to make decisions about love and friendships based on a certain scientific data or after a long and hard-fought deductive method of reasoning. Intuition, inspiration, imagination, and intense emotions that energize the human will, in the view of a Romantic, comprise the real "stuff" of life and ultimate reality. In Schleiermacher's day, there was a new emphasis on the epistemological implications of such realities. Rationality began to be seen as cold and restrictive, much like the Enlightenment thinkers thought of the religious authoritarianism they hoped to overcome.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In comes Schleiermacher. While Schleiermacher followed Kant in seeing the need for placing theological discussion on a locus other than pure reason (see above essay on Kant), neither did he wish to consider Christianity as a form of knowledge or a system of morality, as Kant implied. Rather, Schleiermacher saw religion as grounded in &lt;em&gt;das Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;—an awareness of one's own existence on the one hand (consciousness) with one's dependency on God on the other (God consciousness). For him, then, the role of theology was to explore and explain the implications of that feeling of dependence. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8Dr5ej9VI/AAAAAAAAAQk/pf9UzwDBQik/s1600-h/P5140154.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5205883746961847634" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8Dr5ej9VI/AAAAAAAAAQk/pf9UzwDBQik/s400/P5140154.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;An Extra-Textual Approach to Defining Traditional Christian Terms&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, if one has come this far down the road over discussions on proposing an alternative to basic trust in the Bible (see previous essay on the Enlightenment), the Bible's teachings about the foundations of knowledge are already considered passé. Thus, for those who were "enlightened" with a new approach to knowledge, if the Bible is to be understood as having any relevance to real knowledge, it must be re-interpreted in light of enlightenment presuppositions. This was an &lt;strong&gt;extra-textual&lt;/strong&gt; approach to theology: starting from a certain adherence to a philosophy derived from outside the Bible, by which one then proceeds to interpret the Bible according to its standards—rejecting or reinterpreting wherever discrepancies exist. Based on this combination of Romanticism and Kantian epistemology, Schleiermacher built an extra-textual approach to Scripture, and built his theology on the foundation of &lt;em&gt;das&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;. Anything that could be shown not to have any correspondence to this &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt; was thereby deemed by Schleiermacher as irrelevant for theology. Thus, while the doctrine of creation was seen as constructive toward cultivating this sense of dependence, the mode of creation had no such convenience to theological development. The Genesis account of creation may or may not be historically accurate—as Schleiermacher himself did not believe it was—but this is not what is important. Even if it were historically accurate, however, it would not necessarily inform our feeling of dependency, and therefore, should never be made into an article of faith which defines the nature of Christianity. Such doctrines are not rejected because they are necessarily incompatible with science, but because they do not bear direct relation to the human experience of &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;. Furthermore, doctrinal formulation as such is of secondary importance, since its purpose is to explain and cultivate the all important experience of &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The primary religious truth of Christianity is redemption, which is an experience, not a doctrine. This experience, following the Germen pietistic notions in which Schleiermacher was raised, is the essence of Christian piety—the fundamental basis for theology. For Christianity, however, this is not merely a subjective piety but a corporate one. Christianity, according to Schleiermacher, affords a superior level of God-consciousness than what one might come to on her own or through some other religion. The origins of this heightened piety must be traced back to a sufficient cause: &lt;em&gt;Jesus&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;strong&gt;Heresy&lt;/strong&gt; is redefined as doctrine which fails to give an adequate explanation for this sufficient cause. Since Christ's activity has such great effects on producing such widespread and intense God-consciousness, we must give adequate attention to his person to account for this. What kind of person could be such a catalyst for such higher-order piety? A superior to be sure, in two ways: his own level of God-consciousness and his ability to impart this feeling to others. Inadequate attempts to give a sufficient cause, therefore, of Christian origins, play out in either failing to account for his work of imparting this &lt;em&gt;Gefühl &lt;/em&gt;to others (the redemptive &lt;em&gt;work&lt;/em&gt; of Christ) or in failing to account for what kind of person could be capable of not only having, but powerfully imparting such higher experiences of &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt; to others (the &lt;em&gt;person&lt;/em&gt; of Christ). That is, heresy is the result of failing to ascribe to Christ's person what his activity demands, thus failing to have an acceptable form of Christian faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8DEZej9UI/AAAAAAAAAQc/oN8yNbWI5HU/s1600-h/P5170235.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5205883068357014850" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8DEZej9UI/AAAAAAAAAQc/oN8yNbWI5HU/s400/P5170235.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Schleiermacher's Children: &lt;em&gt;The Birth Of Classical Liberal Theology&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Schleiermacher did not, however, see Christianity as the only source of meaningful theology. The feeling of dependence is universal, and therefore it is inevitable that all religious language would find some way to divulge it. Religious tradition passed on from generation to generation helps people to experience and better understand &lt;em&gt;das Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;. In this sort of framework, non-Christian religions, although inferior to Christianity, are not so much "wrong" as they are different and second-rate ways of affirming the one common human experience of &lt;em&gt;das&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Gefühl&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such a paradigm for theology redefined Christianity. This way of doing Christian theology, using the traditional language of Christ, redemption, doctrine, heresy, etc., yet infusing meanings in them foreign to the traditional confessional statements of Christianity (and foreign to Jesus' own first century Jewish framework to be sure) inevitably created great confusion in the church over the real meaning of Christianity. &lt;em&gt;Who is God the Father?&lt;/em&gt; The whole of reality. &lt;em&gt;Who is Jesus?&lt;/em&gt; The perfect ideal of God-consciousness. &lt;em&gt;Who is the Spirit?&lt;/em&gt; An ability to interpret this feeling of dependance in a common way. &lt;em&gt;What is Sin?&lt;/em&gt; Lack of God-consciousness. &lt;em&gt;What is the Genesis account of the Fall?&lt;/em&gt; A symbol of the lack of God-consciousness. &lt;em&gt;Why should we preach the word?&lt;/em&gt; To evoke this God-consciousness to new levels. &lt;em&gt;What is salvation?&lt;/em&gt; Connecting with our God-consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this project, Schleiermacher literally carved out a whole new path for being Christian and doing Christian theology. His ideas were not just a new development of traditional Christian thought. They assumed a posture of casual dismissal of such thought and an attempt to subvert the historic Christian faith with something more "relevant" to a Post-Enlightenment world. It would be a careless understatement to say that Schleiermacher's new paradigm was picked up by later theologians. His theology was not just picked up by some. In many cases, it virtually replaced Christianity. His influence was deep and wide. The tradition is known as &lt;strong&gt;Classical Liberal Theology.&lt;/strong&gt; After Schleiermacher's bold move, Christianity was never the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although those who came after him varied in their own take of the essence of Christianity, all sought to redefine it with extra-textual philosophical frameworks. Several &lt;strong&gt;common themes&lt;/strong&gt; run throughout this classic period of Liberal Theology which might be considered to have followed (in some way) or further developed Schleiermacher's theology: &lt;strong&gt;1)&lt;/strong&gt; allowing for a disconnect between science, history, and reason on the one hand, and religion on the other, &lt;strong&gt;2)&lt;/strong&gt; taking for granted that the referents for religious language are sufficiently explained outside of a transcendent reference point (i.e. reducing theology to anthropology), &lt;strong&gt;3)&lt;/strong&gt; attempting to boil all religions down to some commonality in human experience (i.e. pluralism), &lt;strong&gt;4)&lt;/strong&gt; attempting to find the value in Scripture by going beyond the original intent of the authors, adapting such texts to current modes of thinking (i.e. extra-textual hermeneutics), &lt;strong&gt;5)&lt;/strong&gt; accepting Kantian starting points (i.e. anti-supernaturalism, noumena vs. phenomena), &lt;strong&gt;6)&lt;/strong&gt; downplaying the importance of church dogma (i.e. anti-confessionalism), &lt;strong&gt;7)&lt;/strong&gt; forfeiting any real hope to establish the uniqueness of Christ (i.e. Christianity as superior in degree rather than superior in kind), &lt;strong&gt;8)&lt;/strong&gt; holding a naïve optimism with respect to human nature, &lt;strong&gt;9)&lt;/strong&gt; attempting to get beyond the biblical texts about Jesus to discover the Jesus of history (i.e. the quest for the historical Jesus), &lt;strong&gt;10)&lt;/strong&gt; reducing world religions down to the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man, &lt;strong&gt;11)&lt;/strong&gt; reducing Christianity to ethical and social concerns (e.g. the social gospel).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although Classical Liberal Theology would eventually be challenged, even Karl Barth, arguably one of Classical Liberal Theology's most vocal critics, when asked by Carl Henry whether or not the resurrection was historical, refused to answer the question and downplayed the importance of such questions. This approach to theology of which Schleiermacher is considered the "father," eventually took over much of mainline Protestantism in what is known now as &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;the modernist controversy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. The theology of Vatican II in many respects gave way to the spirit of the modernist age, leaving a permanent impact on confessional Roman Catholicism as well as protestantism. In short, Schleiermacher's approach to Christianity spawned a new epoch.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-887585475421276729?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/887585475421276729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=887585475421276729&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/887585475421276729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/887585475421276729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/05/das-gefhl-ad-nauseam-friedrich.html' title='das Gefühl ad nauseam: Friedrich Schleiermacher&apos;s Paradigm for Christian Theology'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SD8CxJej9TI/AAAAAAAAAQU/W9j96rMUfO8/s72-c/P5170340.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-8204239374324792204</id><published>2008-05-20T00:02:00.017-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-21T12:54:03.647-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Immanuel Kant'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Enlightenment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Classical Liberal Theology'/><title type='text'>From Enlightenment to Liberal Theology: How the "Light" Led to the Dark Ages of Theology</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJrAHT2FyI/AAAAAAAAAPk/Ltt4ir_V3s0/s1600-h/P5170259.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202338169272801058" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJrAHT2FyI/AAAAAAAAAPk/Ltt4ir_V3s0/s400/P5170259.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;These next two posts will be about how the Enlightenment, and reactions to it, eventually played a major causal role (among other causes) in the rise of liberal theology. Overviews of history always distort things; there is no escaping it. I will no doubt (as all do) oversimplify things. Experts on these subjects are welcome to correct me and help me better understand the nuances that my presentation may obscure, or challenge my thesis altogether. However, I am not alone in my opinions here. I am taking my queues from fallable experts: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;.&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Alister &lt;/span&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;E. McGrath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The Making of Modern German Christology, 1750-1990&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, second edition (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Eugene&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Oregon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;: Wipf &amp;amp; Stock Publishers, 2005). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Revolutions in Worldview: Understanding the Flow of Western Thought&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, edited by W. Andrew Hoffecker (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Phillipsburg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:state&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;New Jersey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:state&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;: P&amp;amp;R Publishers, 2007). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;After the Darkness, There Were Competing Lights &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJqGHT2FwI/AAAAAAAAAPU/AAUdGUtaBDk/s1600-h/P5170203.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202337172840388354" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJqGHT2FwI/AAAAAAAAAPU/AAUdGUtaBDk/s400/P5170203.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"After the darkness, there was light." At least that is how enlightenment thinkers conceived of the radical change that began to take place in the mid-seventeenth century and lasted until the middle of the nineteenth century. Although it might be more accurately portrayed in the plural 'Enlightenments' to underscore the diversity of perspectives during this period, the popular icons of this period sought freedom from superstition and religious authority on the one hand, to reach &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;terra nova&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; through reason and science on the other. It is characterized as an age of optimism. Many from this period had become fed up with years of religious persecution when the church killed "heretics" (anyone who disagreed with the reigning religious persuasion), and were eager to overcome the age-old hostile debates between Catholics and Protestants through reason. This can be seen in the decline of authoritarian institutions such as the nobility and the church and the rise of the middle class and nationalism. Paralleling these more secular drifts of the Enlightenment was a series of evangelical "Awakenings" in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Britain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, Jansenism in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;France&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, Pietism in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Germany&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;, and the Great Awakening in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;. Both the Awakenings and the Enlightenments had incredible impacts on the culture, and would ultimately compete for the allegiance of the hearts and minds of Western Culture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Alternatives to a Revelation-Dependant Epistemology Proposed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Francis Bacon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;(1561-1626)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; was the forerunner for the Enlightenment period. His obsession to find the one true method for settling all disputes about fact and truth would become typical of the enlightenment optimism. He argued for a revolution in the approach to knowledge. He inverted the method of his day, rationalism and deductive reasoning, and argued that one should arrive at the general maxims last, only after beginning anew and rebuilding the foundations of knowledge through an inductive method. Not long after Bacon published his popular book, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Lord Herbert of Cherbury (1582/3-1648)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; proposed that religion should only accept what is rational. Such a sentiment would become the typical &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;modus operandi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; for Deism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;John Locke (1632-1704)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; influenced the minds of many with his &lt;em&gt;Essay Concerning Human Understanding&lt;/em&gt; (1690) in which he tried to provide foundations for knowledge by arguing that ideas were not a priori but rather, each person is born with a &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;tabula rasa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; ("blank slate") and knowledge comes through sensation and reflection. Locke also pushed for certain political changes, most notably: 1) toleration for all religious persuasions except for Roman Catholics, rather than a state church that enforced its views and 2) democracy based on the consent of the governed. Although John Locke himself was somewhat of a Christian apologist, he gave reason and science the authority in his epistemological system. He denied John Calvin's claim that a basic knowledge of God was &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, rejected the doctrine of original sin, and saw education as the key to transformation. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;If Reason Can't Demonstrate it, It Aint So&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;As rationalism and science gained more authority, deism became more intellectually credible than traditional Christian faith. Although &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Sir Isaac Newton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;(1624-1727)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; himself believed in an open universe, his laws of motion were picked up and used in an ever-increasingly secular model of science in which belief in miracles and the supernatural were considered anti-science. In an attempt to demonstrate that nothing in Christianity was contrary or above reason, Deists like &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;John Toland (1670-1722) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Matthew Tindal (1655-1733)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; bent over backwards to reduce the central teachings of Christianity to things that can be universally verifiable. This went beyond Locke, who allowed for adherence to truths which were "beyond" reason, and cultivated an attitude that rejected everything that could not be grasped by human reason. &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;If humans cannot explain it, it must not be true&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;—so much for doctrines about the incarnations of a deity, or substitutionary atonements, or miracles such as the rising of the dead. Reason alone will not lead to such notions, therefore, they must be rejected as a naiveté of the primitive thought.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Wipe Out the Imfamy! (trans-rational religion) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Voltaire (1694-78)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; was the leader in the French Enlightenment (along with other men, together known as the &lt;em&gt;philosophes&lt;/em&gt;). They escalated the revolution one step further. Whereas the deists were trying to associate their views with traditional Christianity, Voltaire was willing to sever all ties to Christianity and attack every major Christian doctrine with great hostility, chanting, "Wipe out the infamy" (i.e. organized Christianity). Christianity was thought by these men to be antithetical to reason and natural religion, so they sought to break the &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;anciene regime's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; strong hold on French culture. The French revolution was radical, political, and bloody.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJqwHT2FxI/AAAAAAAAAPc/YQDzQMnxszQ/s1600-h/P5170236.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202337894394894098" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJqwHT2FxI/AAAAAAAAAPc/YQDzQMnxszQ/s400/P5170236.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Taking the Rejection of Revelation to it's Logical End&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;By the time &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;David Hume (1711-76)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; appears on the scene, he represented the British Enlightenment's most radical and skeptical form. He took the culture's rejection of certainty through revelation to its logical conclusion. His &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (1758) and &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (1779) resulted in a reduction of what people thought of as firm "knowledge" down to habits of association of ideas united by the imagination and given names. He showed that there is no certainty that what we perceive with our senses actually directly corresponds with reality, and that the categories we put on our sense perceptions are also arbitrary habits that cannot be proven to be accurate. Perhaps nothing lies behind our sense perceptions; perhaps reason itself is just an arbitrary habit we humans have. Although Hume was skeptical, this did not stop him from making all sorts of arguments with his reasoning faculties. He gained notoriety for giving a conclusive argument against the possibility of miracles, establishing the empiricist maxim: &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Whatever books do not have experimental reasoning about matters of fact and existence, Commit them to the flames!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; He also was thought to have disproved the knowledge of self and God, along with knowledge of cause and effect that served as a basis for science. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Revelation, Reason, Science, and a Change in Light Posture &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJv93T2F1I/AAAAAAAAAP8/MC-9L0JaSgI/s1600-h/P5170247.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202343628176234322" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJv93T2F1I/AAAAAAAAAP8/MC-9L0JaSgI/s400/P5170247.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;It must be pointed out that science and reason were not discovered during the Enlightenment, but they were developing disciplines long before they took center stage during the Enlightenment. Questions of human existence, the meaning of life, the destiny of man, the existence God, along with questions about metaphysics, ethics, and morality were largely settled by religious beliefs—Christianity in particular. The shift during the Enlightenment was a shift from thinking that the most ultimate questions about human existence were not clearly spelled out in scientific data and must be found in revelation, to a distrust in revelation (long years of religious wars may have helped that along) and an optimism on the ability of science to discover and unravel the ultimate questions of life. To say it another way, theology as the "queen" of science was dethroned by virtue of the dethroning of the king himself—revelation. Although science existed before the Enlightenment, science began to take the place of sole arbitrator of all truth. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Inasmuch as science was a form of human reason, some pointed out that science itself was dependant on reason and philosophy. This created a competition for the epistemological throne of all knowledge. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Empiricism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; on the one hand championed the inductive method as supreme (as seen in John Locke) while &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;rationalism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (as seen in Descartian philosophy) on the other championed deductive reasoning as the only sure method for establishing the credibility of knowledge (even scientific knowledge). Without a great deal of exaggeration we might say that the Enlightenment witnessed a change in &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;light posture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. The "light" from science and reason before the Enlightenment was in a posture of humble submission to a divine revelation. After the Enlightenment, science and reason began lording it over divine revelation, forcing that revelation to submit to modern science and human reason—whether that meant an outright denial of revelation's claims, or creative ways of interpreting that revelation so that it still fit what seemed "reasonable" to the modern mind.  The most devestating shift for religion was when this came to mean that truth claims in religion not only had to be compatable with science and reason, but had to be verifiable by science and reason.  This effectively placed science and reason as the only ultimate grounds for knowing anything for sure.  If reason or science can't demonstrate it---it probably aint so! (or at least you shouldn't count your life on it)  &lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; One can see how easily this transitions to pluralism and the relativization of religious truth claims: We don't really who's right and who's wrong unless science can arbitrate truth claims, yet we can't say that these claims are not true, for they transcend verification principles of science and reason.  Maybe they have truth in them which will one day be verified by science and reason, but sceince and reason are "where it's at."     &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Can't Reason and Science "Get Along?": &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Immanuel Kant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;If the Enlightenment can be seen as in great part a struggle for an alternative epistemological foundation to the revelation-dependant framework of traditional Christianity, then it could also be seen as a virtual king-of-the-hill competition between a robust rationalism on the one hand, and a "see it to believe it" empiricism on the other. Following this oversimplification, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Immanuel Kant (1724-1804)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; might be seen as the man who broke up the fight and attempted to make peace between these two paradigms by taking the best from each and fusing them together into a system known as &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;epistemological dualism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; or Rational Empiricism. Although in light of the debates of his contemporaries the genius in which he was able to pull this off is hard to follow for those who are not schooled in Enlightenment philosophy, his basic epistemological outlook is rather simple. He was a rationalist who tried to make room for scientific empiricism. His theory was that the rational mind imposes innate (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;) categories on all empirical sense perception, thereby interpreting them and playing a more fundamental role with respect to knowledge construction, yet leaving room for meaningful knowledge construction by the scientific method. **If all one had was a series of sense perceptions without categories of the mind to interpret and relate the data, life would be a meaningless string of consecutive sense perceptions that bore zero relation to one another. On the other hand, if all one had were empty "filing" categories without sensory data to be "filed" in them, they remain completely blank. According to Kant, however, if we proceed as though these categories of the mind are legitimate, we can have constructive interpretation of the sensory data resulting in meaningful knowledge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJrLHT2FzI/AAAAAAAAAPs/eu_pr1eFn74/s1600-h/P5170291.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202338358251362098" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJrLHT2FzI/AAAAAAAAAPs/eu_pr1eFn74/s400/P5170291.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Did Kant Leave Us With With a Hole in the Epistemicological Boat?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;It is important to notice that Kant's basic approach involves a posture of skepticism with regard to the certainty of all knowledge. Only &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;if &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;the imposing categories of the mind can be trusted can we be sure our knowledge corresponds to reality. However, as Kant stressed, we cannot prove these categories to be precise. We cannot escape these categories so as to experience reality apart from the mediation of them. If we were able to somehow "cut out the middle man" of our mediating categories, this could be called direct knowledge or &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Noumena&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (knowledge apart from the construction of the mind). Unfortunately for Kant, all knowledge construction is based on &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Phenomena&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; instead—reality as it appears to us by the mediation of our mental categories. As Kant understood it, then, hard science is a combination of sense experience and mental interpretation. However, when this paradigm is extended to Christian theology, Kant believed such theology is mere speculation because knowledge about metaphysics (beyond the physical, beyond matter) is by definition beyond our sense perception. We have never seen, tasted, heard, or felt God by mediation of our senses, thus our language about such things bears no correspondence to any immediate human experience, nor is God one of the 12 inborn categories ("filing cabinets") of the human mind (at least according to Kant). With neither a fundamental &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; grounding, nor a fundamental empirical grounding, God-talk can only be justified from the standpoint of deduction or indirect reasoning (i.e. speculation).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;So what does all this have to do with Christian theology? &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Everything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; Although for Kant all knoweldge is &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;phenomenalogical&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, and therefore it cannot be ultimately verified, even once one grants that our minds construe sense data with basic reliability, language about metaphysical realities go "beyond" sense perception and are not one of the twelve innate mental categories. God-talk, therefore, is on epistemologically slippery ground. If we adopt Kant's paradigm for knowledge construction, religious language only becomes relevant inasmuch as it is able to capture something of direct human experience. Talk about God, anything beyond scientific verification or that which reason necessitates becomes passé and looked upon as mere speculation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;. .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The Enlightenment as the Leavening Effect of the Renaissance Era &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;f the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Renaissance Era (1300's-1600's)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; saw the "rebirth" of classical texts, which texts began to provide a canon or dialogue point in the educational enterprise, then the Enlightenment might be seen as the fruit of this new canon in the hands of those fed up with religious authoritarianism and looking for an alternative authority for truth. Although initially the revival of classic texts aided the Reformation's conservative views on Scripture, in the long run this revival led to a replacement in European culture of the biblical worldview. When more attention is given to Philosophy and science than the Bible, over time this has the effect, not only of eroding the authority of basic biblical presuppositions and produced radical forms of skepticism, but it also of initiating creative new ways of interpreting the Bible so that it fits with one's pre-commitments to a certain philosophy (whether or not the authors of the Bible ever intended their writings to be interpreted in this way). Nowhere is this leavening effect more evident than in the epistemological revolution that took place in the period of the Enlightenment. It was during the Enlightenment that the Bible began to be interpreted by deists in a creative way that enabled them to stiff-arm the Bible actual teachings in favor of their own philosophy of deism. The supernatural aspects of the Bible are reinterpreted to have only a symbolic and/or ethical meaning, not a metaphysical "dogma." It is this bold step of hermeneutical creativity which can be seen to have given rise to the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Classical Liberal Theology&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; in the latter days of the Enlightenment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.. . &lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJwa3T2F2I/AAAAAAAAAQE/8FNeZ4QuNb0/s1600-h/P5170245.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5202344126392440674" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJwa3T2F2I/AAAAAAAAAQE/8FNeZ4QuNb0/s400/P5170245.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;In my next post, I will discuss Romantacism as a reaction to the Enlightenment, and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Schleiermacher&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; as case in point of the causal connection between the Enlightenment and Liberal Theology, for he is considered the father of Classical Liberal Theology. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8204239374324792204?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8204239374324792204/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=8204239374324792204&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8204239374324792204'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8204239374324792204'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/05/from-enlightenment-to-liberal-theology.html' title='From Enlightenment to Liberal Theology: How the &quot;Light&quot; Led to the Dark Ages of Theology'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SDJrAHT2FyI/AAAAAAAAAPk/Ltt4ir_V3s0/s72-c/P5170259.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-6760884992461627870</id><published>2008-05-13T17:03:00.013-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-15T13:33:09.204-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Together For the Gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calvinism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerging Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Al Mohler'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John MacArthur'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscol'/><title type='text'>T4G 08: Mixed Afterthoughts, pt. 2</title><content type='html'>Before I make any remarks about my mixed feeling at T4G (a conference which is by now old news to most bloggers), I want to express a few words of gratitude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSNHT2FpI/AAAAAAAAAOc/qD7TLSTtkj4/s1600-h/P4160059.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199988736262542994" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSNHT2FpI/AAAAAAAAAOc/qD7TLSTtkj4/s400/P4160059.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;I stand on the shoulders of men like John MacArthur, R.C. Sproul, Mark Dever, and John Piper especially. These men have been examples to me over the years of Christ-centered ministry, preaching, and teaching. Their teachings are invaluable to me. It would be a difficult task to attempt to measure the impact of their faithful ministries on my own life, let alone the hundreds of thousands. I'm agnostic about where I would be today if it weren't for these men (certainly not at Southern Seminary in Louisville, KY). These men have fed my mind and heart with the things of God for many years. I don't want to become arrogantly ungrateful by biting these hands that have been feeding me without good reason. Nevertheless, it is also these men who have taught me discernment and frankness in the midst of controversy and disagreement. They model for me how to raise issues to those who you respect when you may disagree with them. These men speak out when they have genuine concerns about trends, practices, beliefs, or attitudes in evangelicalism they see as "not so edifying." Following their example then, I also have developed some concerns over the years that won't go away, and out of the concerns of my heart, my mind churns, my mouth speaks, my fingers type, and my blog post's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Together for the Gospel or Together for Calvinism?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my last post, I talked about how deeply Mark Dever's point about not confusing the gospel with non-essentials resonated with me personally. When I first became a Calvinist, I became acclimated to the Reformed flavor of preaching and teaching. I have been a member at churches that regularly bashed other Christian churches on a normal basis from the pulpit as a matter of habit. After attending for a while, I was infected myself and began to think of our Reformed communities as something like the only true remnant of uncompromised and reverent Christianity that took the Bible seriously. Everyone else was entertainment based, man-centered, and unbiblical; influenced either by liberalism or the world. Young Reformed types that come from Southern have a reputation for splitting churches over Calvinism. This is a fact. In disbelief I have listened to devastated church members tell me about how painful it was to see their once tight knit community divorce themselves from fellowship. It can be a whole lot like a family feud: ugly, painful, leaving scars, bitterness and disillusionment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSdXT2FqI/AAAAAAAAAOk/P3XnYjJ4qo8/s1600-h/P4160060.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199989015435417250" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSdXT2FqI/AAAAAAAAAOk/P3XnYjJ4qo8/s400/P4160060.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is why I said in my last post that I think Dever's words were most significant. It's because the context I come from tends to major on the minors and allow non-gospel issues to be great points of contention, even to find their identity in the Reformed tradition rather than in the gospel. &lt;strong&gt;Once our affections become more exercised over our particular church's or denomination's traditions&lt;/strong&gt; (yes, that includes Reformed teaching about Calvinism, the Lord's Supper, Baptism, the Regulative Principle, Church Membership, Tongues, Preaching Style [expositional preaching vs. topical, etc.], Worship Style [is drama ok? are multi-site churches ok? short sermons? alter calls? etc.], views about women in ministry [egalitarian vs. complementarian]—and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on—&lt;strong&gt;than over the gospel, our hearts are out of whack.&lt;/strong&gt; Though many of these things can effect the nuances we add to the gospel, they cannot be confused with the gospel itself. Though important, they are not the dividing lines between those who believe the gospel and those who don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, I thought T4G revealed a blind spot in this area. Though the banner of the conference is "Together for the Gospel," John MacArthur's message was all about total inability (i.e. Calvinism). Now, I would have been more comfortable if his message demonstrated sensitivity to this distinction. Perhaps his message could have been introduced something like this: "I strongly believe that the doctrine of total inability is a strong safeguard for the gospel. Therefore, although we have come together for this core belief, and although I love my brothers and sisters who do not believe in total inability, and recognize them as co-equals together in the gospel, I would nevertheless like to spend my time commending this doctrine because I think it helps protect our basic beliefs in the gospel." But rather than anything even approaching this sort of sensitivity, I was disappointed to hear just the opposite. As he was waxing eloquent on total inability, he compared it to other "false gospels" as if he understood the doctrine of total inability to be the "true gospel." To make matters worse, Mark Dever of all people (just before his message about not referring to non-gospel doctrines as "the gospel"), commends MacArthur's message, referring to it as an wonderful exposition of "the gospel." Surely I wasn't the only one who noticed this apparent inconsistency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSs3T2FrI/AAAAAAAAAOs/OpkfJkhHt84/s1600-h/P4160057.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199989281723389618" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSs3T2FrI/AAAAAAAAAOs/OpkfJkhHt84/s400/P4160057.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I found Mohler's message on substitutionary atonement, for example, more appropriate for the theme of the conference. Or take R.C.'s message about the theme of cursing—this is also at the heart of our gospel (Christ became a curse for us). Not everybody at T4G was, by my sensitivities, off key with respect to the common cause.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In a context when 1)&lt;/strong&gt; Seminary students are splitting churches over Calvinism, &lt;strong&gt;2)&lt;/strong&gt; recent rumors spread about the SBC possibly splitting over Armenian vs. Calvinism issues just before the Calvinism debate between Mohler and Paige Patterson (who wisely spent much time in that debate demonstrating their unity in spite of their differences), &lt;strong&gt;3)&lt;/strong&gt; close friends of mine are finding it sadly curious that I would go to a church that wasn't "on board" with all the stuff we are learning in seminary, &lt;strong&gt;4)&lt;/strong&gt; Pastors are finding their churches identity more in Calvinism than the gospel (speaking from my own experience here), the &lt;strong&gt;T4G seemed to me to be perpetuating this unfortunate confusion between Calvinism and the Gospel.&lt;/strong&gt; Note: I'm not saying that John MacArthur would say he didn't think Norman Geisler was a Christian, but it's safe to say that he thinks Norman Geisler, in some sense, has a "false gospel." I wonder how a guy like John Wesley would have felt if he were to enthusiastically volunteer his support of a "Together for the &lt;em&gt;Gospel&lt;/em&gt;" conference, only to find the preachers more interested in propagating the younger ministers with Calvinism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At another point during the conference, I was walking by the booths set up along the side of the bookstore. As I stumbled upon a booth with an eager man representing the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals, I began to question him whether his organization was for all evangelicals. "Certainly," he replied with great enthusiasm. But as I questioned further, he seemed to get a little tongue tied. "So ..." I asked casually, " … does your organization try to reach, encourage, and include Arminian churches also, or is this more for Reformed types?" My question seemed to catch the man off guard. He replied something like, "Well … you don't have to agree with us about every point of doctrine to support our organization or give money to it." (notice this does not really answer my question) As I looked at the back of the promotion magazine, I noticed that all the names of the council members I recognized were Reformed. I read one of the articles of faith that represented the alliance. It's doctrinal statement exalted the Reformation and bashed the present day church at large for being worldly and having everything wrong. It summed up all these things like this: "The loss of God's centrality in the life of today's church is common and lamentable." I wondered whether such an alliance was something like an "Alliance of the Confessing Reformed" moreso than an inclusive alliance of all those who confess the common gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ (whether or not they are "Reformed"). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoS7HT2FsI/AAAAAAAAAO0/ZuwJZgj29BE/s1600-h/P4160054.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199989526536525506" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoS7HT2FsI/AAAAAAAAAO0/ZuwJZgj29BE/s400/P4160054.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Relevant Truth: &lt;em&gt;We should never call any church that believes the gospel "shallow" in its theology, unless we wish to imply that the gospel, which they hold to and teach, is itself shallow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Unfortunate Casualties in the "Truth War"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There also seemed to be an agenda at the conference to stamp a WARNING label on what is known as The Emerging Church. What I have to say here will be briefer than what has come before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several attempts have been made to distinguish between different streams of the Emerging Church, so as the distinguish the Reformed and conservative types (like Mark Driscol, Darren Patrick, and others) from those who are apparently (and I stress 'apparently' because even Driscol, who is friends with Doug Paggit, Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, and all the big wig names [with the exception of Rob Bell], isn't sure what their official stance is on certain controversial doctrines) taking liberal stances on issues thought to set the boundaries for historic Christianity. The former are called "Emerging," and the latter "Emergent." Nevertheless, some evangelicals who are eager to warn Christians of the liberal streams of this movement have not taken care to protect the faithful gospel ministry of the conservative gospel-centered streams of this movement. Harsh things are said about the "Emerging" movement. They are still lumping them all together under the label without taking note of the features of this complex movement. At T4G, if my memory fails me not, Dr. Mohler quoted one of the authors who supposedly represents the "Emergent" crowd (the apparently liberal crowd) on their teaching about the atonement. Steve Chalk, I think, was his name. Chalk apparently called the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, "divine child abuse." After quoting this author, Mohler, if I'm not mistaking, made a comment about how this is the kind of theology coming from the "Emerging" church, and that the "Emerging church" was a threat to the very central tenants of the Christian gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoTJXT2FtI/AAAAAAAAAO8/olzniBxcF_4/s1600-h/P4150049.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199989771349661394" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoTJXT2FtI/AAAAAAAAAO8/olzniBxcF_4/s400/P4150049.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;When John Piper invited Mark Driscol to speak at his Desiring God conference a few years ago, Piper testified to receiving harsh criticism over it. It attracted hostility and spawned a bit of controversy. After Mohler's comments, those not up on the debates and distinctions would have left the T4G conference with the impression that the Emerging Church was basically liberal theology on the comeback. Since, however, faithful gospel ministers also labor under the Emerging tag, such comments will be sure to perpetuate the hostility against their ministries that is due to precisely the kind of stereotype comments about how the "Emerging Church" is bad news.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think we should not only point out bad theology, but also, in light of a T4G banner, to go out of our way to protect from malignment our faithful brothers in Christ who labor for the same gospel we do—and perhaps are laboring harder than us (given the growth spurts of the movement).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoUFnT2FvI/AAAAAAAAAPM/lqAU8NUPkMQ/s1600-h/P4160059.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5199990806436779762" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoUFnT2FvI/AAAAAAAAAPM/lqAU8NUPkMQ/s400/P4160059.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thoughts not limited to but of a similar nature as these caused me to leave T4G wondering whether our "Gospel" is too exclusive; whether we Reformed types are further isolating ourselves from non-Reformed gospel-believing evangelicals (whether intentionally or unintentionally). I left wishing evangelicalism wasn't so polarized, and wishing our T4G conference did not, in addition to its strongly edifying potential, consciously or unconsciously contribute to the polarization effect between different "camps" of evangelicalism. I left with mixed feelings. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-6760884992461627870?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/6760884992461627870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=6760884992461627870&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6760884992461627870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/6760884992461627870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/05/t4g-08-mixed-afterthoughts-pt-2.html' title='T4G 08: Mixed Afterthoughts, pt. 2'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SCoSNHT2FpI/AAAAAAAAAOc/qD7TLSTtkj4/s72-c/P4160059.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-1659074668575048807</id><published>2008-04-26T00:55:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-26T11:46:37.228-05:00</updated><title type='text'>T4G 08: Mixed Afterthoughts</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;Prescript: I really didn't want to post about T4G until I had plenty of time to go back and quote from the actual words spoken at the conference. Because of major time restraints, I've decided to just post based on my memory instead. I have taken the liberty to paraphrase and loose quote, but if my account is off, feel free to let me know. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLiaGiyL2I/AAAAAAAAAN8/WphV0aAYB_4/s1600-h/P4150044.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLjdmiyL3I/AAAAAAAAAOE/ho0jTdrmMKA/s1600-h/P4150042.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5193463418013757298" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLjdmiyL3I/AAAAAAAAAOE/ho0jTdrmMKA/s400/P4150042.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Helpful in Many Ways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Celebrity Mystique&lt;/strong&gt; – Never has a conference held so many of my own hero's who have shaped me as I have listened to their messages and/or interviews and/or lectures: John Piper, John MacArthur, R.C. Sproul. My own convictions have been shaped more by these men than by all my college and seminary professors over the years. T4G was intended to draw a large crowd by it's "celebrity" impact. Mark Dever joked about this at the beginning of the conference. He said they knew they could draw a large crowd this way even though they disagree with the whole "celebrity" mentality. (I won't take the time to speculate on what he means by that)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dr. Mohler&lt;/strong&gt; brought the heat by defending &lt;strong&gt;substitutionary atonement&lt;/strong&gt; against certain recent attacks. His message was probably more fitting for a classroom lecture than a conference message (based on the responses I heard from some friends of mine who were not able to follow him, and based on C.J.'s comments afterward during the panel discussion). Nevertheless, I was able to follow and enjoy his critiques of modern attacks against this doctrine. His defense was timely and wholly appropriate to the theme of the conference, for Paul considered it among those things which are "of first importance" in the passing on of apostolic gospel proclamation, along with the resurrection (1 Cor 15:1-4ff).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLh02iyL0I/AAAAAAAAANs/qdBjFyytH9U/s1600-h/P4150045.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5193461618422460226" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLh02iyL0I/AAAAAAAAANs/qdBjFyytH9U/s200/P4150045.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;John MacArthur&lt;/strong&gt; basically walked us through the proof texts for a doctrine of "&lt;strong&gt;total inability&lt;/strong&gt;." I'm an 8 point Calvinist, so I nodded my head a great deal of the time, but this was nothing new.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thabiti Anyabwile&lt;/strong&gt; (pronounced by my own phonetic conventions as: thuh.bee.tee ahn.yah.bwee.leh). He challenged us to think of the whole category of &lt;strong&gt;"race"&lt;/strong&gt; as both unhelpful and unbiblical. His definition for "race," however, seemed to be one that most people do not at all intend by the use of the term. As he was speaking, I looked in my back-of-the-Bible concordance to see if the word "race" was used in the Bible. Sure enough, it occurs in the Bible several times. I thought it was unfortunate, since the Bible is our final and ultimate authority, that Thabiti did not address this apparent tension with his call for us to think of the category of "race" as unbiblical. Have the translators got it wrong all these years?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dictionary.com shows that the most common definition for "race" is this: a&lt;em&gt; group of persons related by common descent or heredity.&lt;/em&gt; According to the same source, the most common understanding of "heredity" is the following: &lt;em&gt;the transmission of genetic characters from parents to offspring.&lt;/em&gt; These genetic differences might be as superficial as skin and hair color, as bothersome as unattractive physical traits, or as serious as trends of certain health problems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although one might quibble with the way Thabiti defined "race," I heartily agreed with the &lt;em&gt;spirit &lt;/em&gt;of the message. "Blacks" and "Whites" are not different species with biological categories of their own. There are more commonalities (&lt;strong&gt;"like me's"&lt;/strong&gt;) between all races within the humanity than there are differences. Or, if you like, we are all one race: &lt;em&gt;the human race&lt;/em&gt;. I can walk into a group of people from India or Africa or wherever and still say, "Sinner, like me." "Needs Christ, like me." "Bear's God's image, like me." "&lt;em&gt;Human, like me&lt;/em&gt;." We all descend from Adam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLiC2iyL1I/AAAAAAAAAN0/LEA1hQtV2oI/s1600-h/P4160052.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5193461858940628818" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLiC2iyL1I/AAAAAAAAAN0/LEA1hQtV2oI/s320/P4160052.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Within the human race, there are &lt;strong&gt;ethnic cultures&lt;/strong&gt; which defy any of the superficial "race" categories. Therefore, I agree with Thabiti that the category of ethnicity, which is a more fluid idea, is more helpful than "race," for most people. I used to hate being told that I was "trying to be black," just because all my closest friends were black and because I was immersed in the thug-hip-hop culture (baggy pants, Ebonics with slang words for everything, twisted caps, etc.). I was no more trying to be black than I was trying to be purple. It wasn't about skin color. It was about culture. Thabiti has done us all a favor by helping us see that the category of ethnicity goes deeper, by reminding us that humans are more like each other than we are different from each other (we all bear God's image), and finally, by reminding us that racism can show up in subtle ways (like where you sit and who you decide to talk to in a room full of people). His admonition for us to go out of our way to show unity across cultures was edifying and enriching to the atmosphere of T4G.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; I thought it was one of the more ironically humorous moments when just after Thabiti's message about why "race" is not a helpful category, we sang a hymn that went something like this: "Ye chosen seed of Israel's race…." I wish I could've seen Thabiti's face and lips during that hymn (did he sing along?). lol!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John Piper&lt;/strong&gt; gave a vintage message about how our ministry should be radical and sacrificial. He based this message on the passage in Hebrews, which he basically said was like the punch line of the whole book: "So, let us go out to [Jesus] &lt;strong&gt;outside the camp&lt;/strong&gt;, bearing His reproach" (Heb 13:13). The panel discussion following his message brought out a pleasant surprise (for me anyway). When asked what this radical sacrifice looks like for pastors who "aren't going anywhere" (as C.J. put it) because of long-term commitments to their churches, Piper talked about normal day to day stuff. He didn't talk about being sawed in half or being beaten to death in some Muslim country. He talked about enduring mistreatment as a pastor, suffering yourself to be confrontational with your kids, and other related areas of common obedience. This was unusually helpful for me. When I hear Piper preach, I often get the sense that he has something much greater in mind by "sacrifice" and "suffering" than the day-to-day stuff I experience. Sometimes I walk away from hearing Piper speak with a sense that I haven't even begun to suffer or sacrifice the way he calls for in his messages. But after his clarification of what his exhortation "looks like" for a normal pastor, my eyes began to twinkle. Maybe I understand him after all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLhkmiyLzI/AAAAAAAAANk/s6rAXpYmrlk/s1600-h/P4150042.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLjsmiyL4I/AAAAAAAAAOM/LpWmHVjv4vw/s1600-h/P4150044.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5193463675711795074" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLjsmiyL4I/AAAAAAAAAOM/LpWmHVjv4vw/s400/P4150044.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I actually thought &lt;strong&gt;Mark Dever's&lt;/strong&gt; message was most significant. He encouraged us to make &lt;strong&gt;a distinction&lt;/strong&gt; between the gospel on the one hand, and what we think are the implications of the gospel on the other. Much of his comments regarding this distinction encouraged us to be more gracious to our brothers and sisters in Christ who might have different opinions than we do on things not related directly to the gospel itself. Although he realized that some would criticize him as though he were trying to be reductionistic, he rightfully grounded his distinction as a way to actually protect the gospel. This distinction has the potential to overcome divisiveness in the church by fostering unity among all Christians who believe a common gospel. It's easy to get caught up in our differing opinions about what we think the implications of the gospel are. Dever's message was refreshing because of it's potential for greater unity among Christians who believe in the incarnation, death, burial and resurrection and messiahship/lordship of Jesus Christ and yet, unfortunately, differ on almost everything else. Skizmatics are the worst of heretics, as Augustine liked to say. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Postscript: In this post, I have discussed only some of the ways in which T4G was very helpful. In my next post, I will share the grounds for some mixed feelings I experienced at the conference. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLkOWiyL5I/AAAAAAAAAOU/cpjGLb5P3TY/s1600-h/P4120030.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5193464255532380050" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLkOWiyL5I/AAAAAAAAAOU/cpjGLb5P3TY/s400/P4120030.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-1659074668575048807?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/1659074668575048807/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=1659074668575048807&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1659074668575048807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1659074668575048807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/04/t4g-helpful-in-many-ways-misleading-in.html' title='T4G 08: Mixed Afterthoughts'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/SBLjdmiyL3I/AAAAAAAAAOE/ho0jTdrmMKA/s72-c/P4150042.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7324233809287803789</id><published>2008-03-31T17:28:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-31T19:26:35.125-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book review'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dietrich Bonhoeffer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Cost of Discipleship'/><title type='text'>Critical Evaluation of Bonhoeffer on Discipleship (Part 2)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F73Z-eFGI/AAAAAAAAAL8/UpWUeI_7EF4/s1600-h/P3310015.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184060837876077666" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F73Z-eFGI/AAAAAAAAAL8/UpWUeI_7EF4/s400/P3310015.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Bonhoeffer's book on Discipleship is basically an attack against cheap grace using unqualified contradictions, eisegesis, a literal hermeneutic, legalistic standards and unhelpful advise. In my last post, I began my critique with a look at his doctrine of the situational precondition, and noted that it was an unqualified contradiction. In this unusually long post (at least, unusually long for me), I will attempt to ground my bold criticism of Bonhoeffer's book on discipleship. Although I agree that grace is not cheap, and that discipleship should be radical, I don't think Bonhoeffer has led us in the right direction. Rather than giving us a dependable paradigm of costly grace, I'm afraid Bonhoeffer bamboozles his readers with confusing rhetoric.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hermeneutical Creativity: Convenient Eisegesis&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F-V5-eFNI/AAAAAAAAAM0/yxO0xfUgYlU/s1600-h/P3240009.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184063560885343442" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F-V5-eFNI/AAAAAAAAAM0/yxO0xfUgYlU/s200/P3240009.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Because Bonhoeffer is so eager to denounce cheap grace (which he associates with mere confessional Christianity and abstract principles) he finds a way to link almost every passage to this topic. At several points he simply reads too much into the text in order to create an occasion to scorn his arch enemy: cheap grace. He believes the solution to cheap grace is his &lt;strong&gt;doctrine of&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;the situational precondition&lt;/strong&gt; (see previous post). He sees support for this doctrine in many of the texts. In other places his motives are not clear, but the fact that he sees something in the text which is not there is obvious enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, Bonhoeffer believes that one of the main points of Mark 2.14 is that the disciples followed Jesus without having any previous relationship with him (57). He believes Mark intended to underscore this very point. According to Bonhoeffer, these disciples followed Jesus before they really had "faith" in Him as the Christ: "The response of the disciples is an act of obedience, not a confession of faith in Jesus" (57). He makes the following conclusion from this misinterpretation: "It was not as though they &lt;em&gt;first &lt;/em&gt;recognized him as the Christ and &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; received his command. They believed his word and command [for them to follow] and [then] recognized him as the Christ—&lt;em&gt;in that order&lt;/em&gt;" (226, emphasis mine).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8IZ-eFHI/AAAAAAAAAME/2PhyE_HxCbw/s1600-h/P3290038.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184061129933853810" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8IZ-eFHI/AAAAAAAAAME/2PhyE_HxCbw/s400/P3290038.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;While it is true that this text itself does not give an account of any such "confession," (Levi does not recite the Chalcedonian or Nicene creed as the climax of the encounter) this observation should not lead us to any of &lt;strong&gt;Bonhoeffer's brash conclusions&lt;/strong&gt;. Both the horizontal and vertical contexts to Levi's following not only imply that Levi, at that moment, put his faith in Christ—but it demands it. The disciples did not follow Jesus out of ignorance but confident expectation. It is true that some followed for the wrong reasons, but such is not the context in this passage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The similar accounts in John's gospel reveal that the following of the earliest disciples is based on their understanding of the identity of Jesus. It was when the disciples "heard" John the Baptist's message about Jesus that they began to follow him (Jn 1.37). Though it is not made explicit in verse 36 that the disciples followed because they believed Jesus to be the Messiah (the text only emphasizes John's proclamation of him being "the Lamb of God"), verse 40-41 reveals that this is exactly why they followed him. "One of the two &lt;em&gt;who heard John&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;speak&lt;/em&gt; and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, &lt;em&gt;'We have found the Messiah&lt;/em&gt;'" (Jn 1.40-41, emphasis mine).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F_fZ-eFOI/AAAAAAAAAM8/MB7NKGgJGz4/s1600-h/P3240006.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184064823605728482" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F_fZ-eFOI/AAAAAAAAAM8/MB7NKGgJGz4/s200/P3240006.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The same connection is made with respect to Phillip. In the account of Phillip's initial following, there is not necessarily a "confession of faith in Jesus," but the next verse reveals that Phillip followed precisely because he believed Jesus to be "Him of whom Moses in the Law and also the Prophets wrote—Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph" (Jn 1.45). The confessions seem to become more explicit in each account of Jesus' first followers. Just a few lines later, Nathanael confesses, "You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel" (Jn 1.49). Perhaps Levi had never met Jesus in person before, but there is no reason to believe he had not heard of the testimony of John the Baptist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no reason to believe that Levi—in contrast to all the other accounts— followed out of something other than faith in Jesus as the Christ. The way Bonhoeffer camps out on his point that Levi followed merely "for the sake of the call" is misleading in this regard (58). He makes this same mistake when he notes concerning Mathew 10.1-4 that "it is not a word or a doctrine they receive, but effective power, without which the work could not be done" (204). He fails to comment, however, that in the following verses Christ indeed gives the disciples commands to preach doctrine: even the word of the kingdom (Matt 10.7, 14, 20). It is not either/or (either word or power) but &lt;em&gt;both/and&lt;/em&gt; (they receive both the word of the kingdom &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; the power to demonstrate its authority).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_GAbp-eFRI/AAAAAAAAANU/yaMTesNxqGA/s1600-h/P3080032.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184065858692846866" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_GAbp-eFRI/AAAAAAAAANU/yaMTesNxqGA/s200/P3080032.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Moreover, confessions of faith have a place of prominence in the scriptures (Mt 10.32, 16.13-20, Jn 20.31, Phil 2.11, 1 Jn 4.3). Our "confession" of Jesus as Lord goes hand in hand with our believing in him in our hearts (Rom 10.9). Our "confession" of Christ cannot be separated from and pitted against "acts of obedience." Confessions can be a means of proclaiming the gospel and thus a vital part of fulfilling our commission. Not only is Bonhoeffer's downplay of confessions and abstract principles reactionary and unhelpful in this regard, but his commentary proves to be the result of eisegesis rather than exegesis. Wanting to remedy cheap grace with his doctrine of situational precondition (ironically, itself an abstract doctrine), he sees things in the gospels which are far from the original intention of the authors who wrote them. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8ip-eFII/AAAAAAAAAMM/ncTezRuh5lk/s1600-h/P3280028.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184061580905419906" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8ip-eFII/AAAAAAAAAMM/ncTezRuh5lk/s400/P3280028.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The "Literal" Hermeneutic&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is he hermeneutically creative in his approach to the text, but in addition to this, Bonhoeffer's "literal" hermeneutic is exceedingly crass. He believes that Jesus' command to the rich young ruler to sell all his goods must be applied to all Christians. He calls this the "literal interpretation" (84). Any other interpretation does violence to the scriptures "by interpreting them in terms of an abstract principle" (84). His best textual support is to suggest that this is an implication of the disciples question, "Who then can be saved?" (85).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author's crass approach to interpretation especially sticks out in his comment on Luke 10.29. He concludes that asking questions is wrong (77-78). Why? Because that is what the lawyer did who was trying to justify himself. He interprets Jesus' parable as Jesus' way of saying "You must not ask questions—get on with the job!" (78). He gives further unqualified application to the reader: "Perhaps you still think you ought to think out beforehand and know what you ought to do. To that there is only one answer. You can only know and think about it by actually doing it. You can only learn what obedience is by obeying. It is no use asking questions" (78). This position hardly seems to be the point of the parable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;This crass approach is common to all the author's interpretations. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He thinks Christ condemns anger without qualification: all anger is wrong (127). What about Jesus' anger when he drove the people out of the temple? What about Ephesians 4.26?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He also takes "literally" the command of Jesus in Matthew 5.29-30 to tear out our eyes and cut off our hands if ever we find ourselves using them to lust (132).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He believes it is wrong for a Christian to participate in any governmental retribution because of Jesus' commands to resist evil (143). What about Paul's endorsement of the government's God-given right to execute precisely this kind of retributive justice (Rom 13.1-7)? Bonhoeffer lands contrary to the New Testament when he argues "there is no inner discord between private and official capacity. In both we are disciples of Christ, or we are not Christians at all" (148).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F_x5-eFPI/AAAAAAAAANE/wtTtVYXzKdQ/s1600-h/P3240008.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184065141433308402" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F_x5-eFPI/AAAAAAAAANE/wtTtVYXzKdQ/s200/P3240008.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Also, according to Bonhoeffer, we are not to rejoice in any of God's "good gifts" to us if they are not spiritual "because the world and its goods make a bid for our hearts" (176). In addition, he argues that anytime we use our possessions "as an insurance against the morrow we are dethroning God and presuming to rule the world ourselves" (178-79). What about the example of Paul who sold tents so that he might have money to live without being a burden to the Corinthians?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;The author does not seem eager to test his conclusions by the analogy of faith.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, Bonhoeffer ultimately gives a serious indictment against all whose approach to the scriptures do not apply the call of Christ given to people in the New Testament in this literal way (225). If one does not see all Christ's imperatives—&lt;strong&gt;regardless of context&lt;/strong&gt;—as imperatives for every Christian, then Bonhoeffer beleives such a person actually denies that Christ is still alive (225). For him, there is no such thing as discerning which commandments were contextually specific. As far as the author is concerned, all such hermeneutical principles are based on "a complete misunderstanding of the situation of the disciples" (227). However, through and through, Bonhoeffer's approach lacks clear bridges from the text to his specific interpretations—from which come all his confident conclusions. His "literal" interpretations and creative insights help him to preach against cheap grace, but they do little to help the reader get a grasp on the actual intent of the biblical author. To summarize, one might coin his approach as contextually insensitive, systematically uninformed, and implausibly crass. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8zZ-eFJI/AAAAAAAAAMU/aUl2thhds9Q/s1600-h/P3290128.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184061868668228754" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F8zZ-eFJI/AAAAAAAAAMU/aUl2thhds9Q/s400/P3290128.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Legalistic Standards and Unhelpful Advice&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author is also often guilty of his own harsh criticisms. For example, he tells us that the "third would-be-disciple" in Luke 9.57-62 thought that "certain conditions" must be fulfilled in order to be a disciple—as when people say "first you must do this and then you must do that" (61). He criticizes this as a way of reducing "discipleship to the level of the human understanding" (61). Ironically, he insists on the very next page that "if we would follow Jesus we must take certain definite steps"! (62). He then proceeds to give us the first step and tells us how we might make discipleship possible! In another place he criticizes anyone who would place a chronological gap between faith and obedience: "If, however, we make a chronological distinction between faith and obedience, and make obedience subsequent to faith, we are divorcing the one from the other," yet he does precisely this with his doctrine of the situational precondition (64)! The only difference is that he reverses the chronological order, making obedience a chronological prerequisite to learning faith (63,75).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;These unqualified contradictions abound throughout the book.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Men are called to "decide" to follow Christ "willy-nilly," "and that decision can only be made by themselves" (94). Yet, somehow this "willy-nilly" choice which they must make only "by themselves" is at the same time "no arbitrary choice" nor is it a "choice of their own" (94-95). Huh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He is not concerned with "ideals, duties or values," but he is, on the other hand, concerned with the "virtue of discipleship" and the "quality" of being "extraordinary," (96, 153, 159, 190).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_GA6p-eFSI/AAAAAAAAANc/u2J_cE2NJVI/s1600-h/P3080040.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184066391268791586" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_GA6p-eFSI/AAAAAAAAANc/u2J_cE2NJVI/s200/P3080040.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Obedience to God and obedience to the OT law were never meant to be "divorced from one another," yet following God in the person of Christ might demand the neglect of obedience to the law since Christ emerges as an opponent of the law (61, cf. 60, 121-22, 125).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bonhoeffer expresses his pre-meditated plan of action for true discipleship—which is nothing more than that all his actions be "un-premeditated" (159-60)! All our prayers are to be unpremeditated and entirely spontaneous, yet he helps us pre-mediate &lt;em&gt;the very words&lt;/em&gt; which we are to pray, namely the exact words of the Lord's Prayer (163, 165)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would be "pseudo-theology," not to take Jesus' imperative for the rich young ruler as "literally" applying to all who wish to follow Christ, but at the same time "Jesus does not forbid the possession of property in itself" (84, 174). Can someone say &lt;strong&gt;Hermeneutical schizophrenia&lt;/strong&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9d5-eFLI/AAAAAAAAAMk/xyY5-gWDD0k/s1600-h/P3280030.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184062598812669106" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9d5-eFLI/AAAAAAAAAMk/xyY5-gWDD0k/s400/P3280030.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;In addition to incoherency and bad hermeneutics, much of Bonhoeffer's teaching and advice are unhelpful. He creates many &lt;strong&gt;false-dichotomies&lt;/strong&gt;. For example, Bonhoeffer defines self-denial as "to be aware only of Christ and no more of self, to see only him who goes before and no more the road which is too hard for us" (88). Though we are to make it a priority to follow Christ down a certain road, we can never focus our attention on that road. Though disciples are to make it a priority to be "extraordinary" people, the moment one would try to reflect on what all this extraordinary lifestyle might include, Bonhoeffer's says "he would no longer be following Christ" (159). This is because "if we gaze at the road instead of at him who goes before, we are already straying from the path" (190-91).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the contrary, it would seem that where a certain "road" or lifestyle (such as an "extraordinary" one) overlaps with following Christ (since he is the one who commanded such roads and lifestyles) it is not only helpful to focus on such particulars, but it indeed becomes necessary. Bonhoeffer seems unaware at this point that his whole book has just this aim: to help us focus on what discipleship really is, and what specific things it might entail! Even his doctrine of the situational precondition for faith is an in-depth analysis of the initial stage or "road" of discipleship. His advice to follow the road but never look at it, or to be "extraordinary" but never focusing on the "extraordinary" is unhelpful because it is impractical and impossible. If we are not to focus on the "extraordinary" why does he set apart so much of his book to get us thinking about it? I could imagine how Bonhoeffer would feel if he were to find me pitting his focus on "discipleship" itself as only a distraction from focus on Jesus and his will alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a similar fallacy, Bonhoeffer teaches what I would call &lt;strong&gt;the doctrine of oblivious discipleship&lt;/strong&gt;. What Christ means by our making sure we do not display our righteousness "before men, to be seen of them" is that we are to hide our good works from ourselves (158). In fact, this includes our being unaware of our good deeds: "We must be unaware of our own righteousness" (158). All of our good deeds must be "&lt;em&gt;entirely&lt;/em&gt; spontaneous and &lt;em&gt;unpremeditated&lt;/em&gt;" (159, emphasis mine). We are to be "unreflective" in all our actions (160). For Bonhoeffer, just the concept of faith "excludes &lt;em&gt;all &lt;/em&gt;reflection and premeditation" (163, emphasis mine). Bonhoeffer seems unaware that his doctrine of oblivious discipleship is self-contradictory, for in the very act of teaching us that all our works must be done in this specifically defined way (in a state of oblivion) he has caused us to pre-meditate a grand plan for discipleship! It seems obvious that he has spent an unusual amount of energy thinking, reflecting, and pre-meditating about this himself, as he gives much of his book to this theme of oblivious discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9yZ-eFMI/AAAAAAAAAMs/Ia9F6bqaenM/s1600-h/P3290054.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184062950999987394" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9yZ-eFMI/AAAAAAAAAMs/Ia9F6bqaenM/s400/P3290054.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bonhoeffer also continually juxtaposes all standards of Christian living and patterns of righteousness against single-minded obedience to Christ. There is no "standard of living that separates a follower of Christ from the unbeliever" (184). The Christian duty is "not some eccentric pattern of Christian living, but simple, unreflecting obedience to the will of Christ" (153). Similarly, he forbids us to interpret or apply any texts of Scripture because we should rather do and obey them (197). "If we start…offering interpretations, we are not doing his word" (197). In this manner, he sets interpretation along with any textual reflection against obedience: "The word we had was not Christ's, but a word we had wrested from him and made our own by reflecting on it instead of doing it" (197, cf. 225-226).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author remarks that people are not converted through "unquenchable longing for a new life of freedom," but rather by that which was affected by the cross and is affected by Christ (231). However, it is my conviction that part of repentance (which is necessary for conversion) is a longing for Christ and a longing to be delivered from bondage to our sin. Our conversion is part of that which was affected by the cross and is affected by Christ—and this would include our faith and repentance. This is an important truth which his false dichotomy undermines. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9MJ-eFKI/AAAAAAAAAMc/I8PHsPsAodY/s1600-h/P3300162.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5184062293869991074" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F9MJ-eFKI/AAAAAAAAAMc/I8PHsPsAodY/s400/P3300162.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In conclusion, though I sympathize with his desire to present a radical paradigm for the Christian life, I found Bonhoeffer's five pronged attack on cheap grace to be unhelpful. There were two reminders in Bonhoeffer's book which stand out to me as worth reading. The first was a reminder that suffering is part of the Christian life—even of the essence of Christianity (90-92). The other was his description of conversion as a relinquishing of all our assumed rights (95-96, 141-42). Apart from these two reminders and several miscellaneous one-liners, Bonhoeffer's book was frustrating. Most of his book is full of self-contradiction, hermeneutical hyper-crassism, legalistic standards and unhelpful exhortation. In general, though his book presents a challenging and radical paradigm for the Christian life, it was surprisingly disappointing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7324233809287803789?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7324233809287803789/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7324233809287803789&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7324233809287803789'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7324233809287803789'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/03/critical-evaluation-of-bonhoeffer-on_31.html' title='Critical Evaluation of Bonhoeffer on Discipleship (Part 2)'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R_F73Z-eFGI/AAAAAAAAAL8/UpWUeI_7EF4/s72-c/P3310015.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-8097564871939864561</id><published>2008-03-12T19:44:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T11:14:15.155-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dietrich Bonhoeffer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Cost of Discipleship'/><title type='text'>Critical Evaluation of Bonhoeffer on Discipleship</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iJxgPMWCI/AAAAAAAAALc/X3eXCC6cC40/s1600-h/P3020118.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5177039255222638626" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iJxgPMWCI/AAAAAAAAALc/X3eXCC6cC40/s400/P3020118.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Bonhoeffer, Dietrich. &lt;em&gt;The Cost of Discipleship&lt;/em&gt;. Translated by Chr. Kaiser Verlag Munchen and R.H. Fuller, Revision by Irmagard Booth, New York, NY: Touchstone, 1995. 316 pp. $13.00.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Introduction&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One does not need to read between the lines in order to see the chief concern of Bonhoeffer's popular book, &lt;em&gt;The Cost of Discipleship&lt;/em&gt;. He is transparently determined to convince the reader to abandon the cheap grace mindset and to embrace the more radical paradigm of costly grace. The message of the first chapter, "Costly Grace," sets the tone for the entire book. All that comes after this chapter is in a sense an echo of or a working out of this main thesis: &lt;em&gt;grace is costly&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Chief Concern: &lt;em&gt;To Attack Cheap Grace&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheap grace is discipleship-less, cross-less, and Christ-less grace (43). Cheap grace is justification of sin rather than justification of the sinner, but costly grace is a grace which causes men to commit themselves unreservedly to a life of cross-bearing discipleship. His discussion and summary of church history is basically a lament of the church's abandonment of costly grace for cheap grace (46-53). He gives away the overall intent of his book in this brief treaties of church history and the Lutheran tradition: "To put it quite simply, we must undertake this task [of regaining costly grace] because we are now ready to admit that we no longer stand in the path of true discipleship…although our church is orthodox. … We must therefore attempt to recover a true understanding of the mutual relation between grace and discipleship" (55). To this end he labors in his book, &lt;em&gt;The Cost of Discipleship&lt;/em&gt;, attempting to show that grace includes a&lt;br /&gt;radical commitment of obedience to Christ and is not merely an abstract belief which has no demands on the life of the believer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;His fivefold method of defacing cheap grace is a combination of his doctrine of the situational precondition, eisegesis, a "literal" hermeneutic, legalistic standards and unhelpful exhortation. All of these chosen weapons are given exclamation since the author couches them in sharp rhetoric. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iFxQPMV_I/AAAAAAAAALE/Wjni0Ci1Ubs/s1600-h/P3020119.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5177034852881160178" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iFxQPMV_I/AAAAAAAAALE/Wjni0Ci1Ubs/s400/P3020119.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Chief Weapon of Attack: &lt;em&gt;The Situational Precondition for Faith&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bonhoeffer sees a dichotomy between doctrine and discipleship. Discipleship and abstract doctrine are mutually exclusive: "An abstract Christology…[and] religious knowledge…render discipleship superfluous…[and] exclude any idea of discipleship whatever" (59 cf. 62, 248). His pessimism with regard to abstract doctrine helps set the stage for his paradigm of the situational precondition for faith. Bonhoeffer hopes to convince the reader that he or she must simply obey the commands of Jesus—whether they have "faith" or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author finds in his exegesis a unique paradigm for conversion. This paradigm is based on his distinction of a situation in which faith is possible verses a situation in which faith is not possible. The call of discipleship, he teaches, is a call for one to "go out of his situation in which he cannot believe" and "into the situation in which…faith is possible" (62). This is the call of discipleship (or at least it is the first phase of the call). He calls this situation "the road to faith" because only through this situation can one learn to believe (63). He says of one whom Christ commanded to follow, "If he refuses to follow and stays behind, he does not learn how to believe" (62). This is why he must follow Christ: to learn how to believe by means of this "situation." I have referred to this "road" of followship as the situational precondition for faith, since, according to Bonhoeffer it is a "situation" (in which faith is possible) and a necessary precondition for faith (if he does not follow, he will never even enter the possibility of learning faith). The situation he speaks of is that situation in which the person is following Christ. One must be obedient to the call of Christ to follow because without obedience to this command one never enters into this necessary situation in which faith is possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This first step of obedience is not faith, however, but "the road to faith" (63). This step "can never be more than, a purely external act and a dead work of the law," and it does not have "any intrinsic worth or merit," though the call of Jesus justifies it (65, 63). "Last, but not least, the situation in which faith is possible is itself only rendered possible through faith" (63). From this "last" description of the situation comes Bonhoeffer's well-known summary of this doctrine, "only the one who believes is obedient, and only he who is obedient believes" (63). As I will show, this paradigm which he sets up early in his book works as the primary hermeneutical filter in Bonhoeffer's exegetical attempts throughout the book. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iLGwPMWEI/AAAAAAAAALs/Y7BUMKCw-jQ/s1600-h/P3020110.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5177040719806486594" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iLGwPMWEI/AAAAAAAAALs/Y7BUMKCw-jQ/s400/P3020110.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Critical Evaluation Part I&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Situational Precondition Is An Unqualified Contradiction&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It must be said at the outset of my evaluation that Bonhoeffer's chief doctrine of the situational precondition for faith is self-contradictory. Bonhoeffer's paradigm collapses logically due to a serious violation of the law of non-contradiction. To the question "How do we get faith?" he would answer, "By &lt;em&gt;first&lt;/em&gt; obeying the voice of Christ to follow Him so that you might find yourself in the situation in which faith is possible." This is why he says to the reader, "If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it" (67). Elsewhere, however, he tells us that one cannot take the first step without faith because the "situation in which faith is possible is itself &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; rendered possible through faith" (63, emphasis mine). "In the end, the first step of obedience proves to be an act of faith in the word of Christ…unless he obeys, a man cannot believe" (66).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it seems to me that he falls into a fallacious line of reasoning. One must obey with action in order to &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; learn how to believe—but he can only do this with faith. His exhortation is like counseling a man with no means of transportation to drive to the Honda dealership and buy a car. This reasoning seems similar to the circular reasoning of the scientific theory of spontaneous generation: the world exists before it exists in order to create itself. Only with this author, faith exists before the possibility of faith exists because faith is the necessary means to achieving the situational possibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus Bonhoeffer's famed summary statement of this doctrine of the situational precondition is actually a self-contradiction when interpreted in light of the context in which he originally expressed it, for what he means is this: only the one who first believes has the ability to &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; obey, and only the one who &lt;em&gt;first&lt;/em&gt; obeys will ever believe. In a nut shell he is arguing that one must first have faith before he is able to obtain it. His chief doctrine and famous saying is thus an unqualified contradiction which teaches that the one who does not have faith obtains faith by means of faith before he or she ever has faith. This discovery thoroughly frustrated me and made me wary of his whole book. I was especially frustrated as I progressed through the book with this caution, finding that many of his arguments fell victim to similar logical incoherency. This discrepancy made much of his book unhelpful to me in regard to the purpose for which it was written. &lt;strong&gt;For Bonhoeffer discipleship is costly, but for me, Bonhoeffer made discipleship confusing.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ffffff;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iL-gPMWFI/AAAAAAAAAL0/__bjs3aNzpQ/s1600-h/P3020131.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5177041677584193618" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iL-gPMWFI/AAAAAAAAAL0/__bjs3aNzpQ/s400/P3020131.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;More to Come...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My next post will be entitled "&lt;strong&gt;Critical Evaluation of Bonhoeffer, Part II&lt;/strong&gt;" and will look at more of Bonhoeffer's 1) hermeneutical creativity, 2) literal hermeneutic, 3) legalistic standards, and 4) unhelpful advice. It would be good for the reader to bear in mind that I am by no means critical of Bonhoeffer himself; only his attempt to articulate a biblical and helpful theology. I happen to greatly admire Bonhoeffer, and I would recommend biographies on his life more than his own writings. &lt;em&gt;Whatever I might say about his book, his life would put my petty picking at his ideas to shame.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-8097564871939864561?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/8097564871939864561/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=8097564871939864561&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8097564871939864561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/8097564871939864561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/03/critical-evaluation-of-bonhoeffer-on.html' title='Critical Evaluation of Bonhoeffer on Discipleship'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9iJxgPMWCI/AAAAAAAAALc/X3eXCC6cC40/s72-c/P3020118.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-1993626228345622320</id><published>2008-03-07T14:04:00.009-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-07T15:19:48.314-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='smoking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='partying'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='drunkeness'/><title type='text'>Calling all God-Lovers: Answers Anyone?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GhQQPMV6I/AAAAAAAAAKc/B75i0ruJnnc/s1600-h/P3020066.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5175094747434080162" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GhQQPMV6I/AAAAAAAAAKc/B75i0ruJnnc/s400/P3020066.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why Does This Seem Not to be Commonly Treated in Ethics, Theology, or Biblical Interpretation?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;p&gt;In all my reading at a Christian University in College and even now at Seminary (training for real life ministry) I've never come across a theologian who has seriously wrestled with the questions I will present in this brief post. Perhaps this just means that I'm not well read (let me know if there are any lengthy treatments on this issue that attempt to answer the relevant questions). Or perhaps it means that most writings on ethical questions are focused only on a handful of hot-button cultural/apologetical issues (such as whether there are moral absolutes, whether abortion is wrong, homosexuality, etc.). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The following is a summary of a real conversation I had with a friend of mine a while back. I walked into their apartment and they were smoking cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and drinking liquor. Now, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;I don't think drinking alcohol is sinful in and of itself&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and I also realize that eating junk food consistently can be just as damaging to one's health as smoking, although the former is not as commonly recognized as sin. However, when I walked into this room and stumbled through a thick cloud of smoke to behold the scene, I was shocked. As I was able to compose myself, a conversation began. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-------------------------------------------------- &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CONVERSATION &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;How do you justify smoking?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; I think God made it to enjoy. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Then how do you justify the killing of your brain cells? You do know it rapidly kills your brain cells right?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, but so does alcohol, and we know that God does not forbid the drinking of alcohol. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;But my friend, it is because only a little alcohol does not kill brain cells, but God does condemn drunkenness, because excessive alcohol does indeed rapidly kill brain cells and distort the mind's judgment. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; Right, so I drink only in modesty. God tells us it makes the heart merry, and I only get a buzz, but I do not drink until I am unable to control myself. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Scriptures teach us to be sober. Do you not think that a buzz alters the mind?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; No. It is possible to be slightly buzzed and still in a right frame of mind. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Right, but you realize that you can justify drunkenness if you wish by calling it a buzz, as my brother does, getting drunk and kidding himself that he is only barely buzzing? Do you not see where this leads?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; Right, so much of it seems to be uncertain so as to what the scripture means when it says to be sober minded, and how much is too much. That's when it becomes more relative, but so long as I feel I am not breaking the command, I will drink. [Later he and his friend admit to me that they had exceeded their limit and abused this freedom before] &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 2:&lt;/strong&gt; Do you not think that coffee alters the state of the mind? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Well, I suppose you could say it does in a way. But you could also say one’s mind is altered when he first awakes in the morning, but this is not what the Bible means when is speaks of staying sober.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; I agree and therefore I maintain that it is O.K. to have a buzz, because though it alters the mind in a sense, it is not what the scripture forbids by telling us to say sober minded. Besides, it’s just like taking a PM pill to help go to sleep, no different. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;But it is different, for now you are speaking of medication.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; Right, medication to help you get too sleep right? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ME:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Right.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PERSON 1:&lt;/strong&gt; So, if a swig of liquor gives the same effect, and is even cheaper, what is the difference? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;----------------------------------------------- &lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GhxAPMV7I/AAAAAAAAAKk/zWBRdxugKVA/s1600-h/P3020115.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5175095310074795954" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GhxAPMV7I/AAAAAAAAAKk/zWBRdxugKVA/s400/P3020115.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now the conversation was actually much more complex than that&lt;/strong&gt;, but I've spared you all the details. I was caught off guard that evening. I was especially stumped by the argument of PERSON 1 that drinking a swig of whiskey to help with the Z's was no different than taking a PM pill designed to aid sleep. Although I was not quite sure how to respond at the time, I couldn't let them have the last word. Before I left the house that night, I warned everybody in that place that although they were right to differ with the legalists, they were playing with fire. I spoke from personal testimony (hard to argue with that) about how addictive alcohol is and how hard it is to control these habits once you begin to enjoy them. I just knew something wasn't right about their attitude towards it all. But I'll never forget that conversation. It forced me to think harder about how to ground arguments against those on the opposite extreme from the legalists who have clever arguments on how to justify basically drinking liquor and smoking cancer sticks every night before bed. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some questions that emerge are:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;What exactly does the Bible mean when it tell us to be sober minded? Most Christians agree that drunkenness is condemned, but what about a buzz? If altering the state of mind is the basis for judging whether one is "sober" or not, how can one justify the drinking of caffeine filled coffee which also alters the state of mind (albeit in a different way than liquor)? How do we know when we have violated the principle contained in the commands against drunkenness and non-soberness? Is it OK to smoke a cigar on occasion (say, on the night before a wedding)? Should pastors confront the problem of smoking or overeating or eating unhealthily as a matter of church discipline or just address it generically in sermons and leave that kind of conviction up to the Holy Spirit? Is it OK to have a good time at a party where people are getting drunk? Is it OK to laugh at someone who does something funny because they are drunk?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GiUAPMV8I/AAAAAAAAAKs/sM6KZJEGB68/s1600-h/P3020110.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5175095911370217410" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GiUAPMV8I/AAAAAAAAAKs/sM6KZJEGB68/s400/P3020110.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CALLING ALL GOD-LOVERS&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Of course, many other questions along these lines needs to be raised and dealth with by means of a consistent and well crafted paradigm that is sensitive to the biblical authors original intent. NOTE: I have come to several convictions about the above questions, and things not as black and white as some think, but I would love to get some feedback from some thoughtful God lovers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-1993626228345622320?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/1993626228345622320/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=1993626228345622320&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1993626228345622320'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/1993626228345622320'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/03/calling-all-god-lovers-answers-anyone.html' title='Calling all God-Lovers: Answers Anyone?'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R9GhQQPMV6I/AAAAAAAAAKc/B75i0ruJnnc/s72-c/P3020066.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-3597037671869927788</id><published>2008-02-24T18:20:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-24T18:39:36.114-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trust'/><title type='text'>Trust: priceless, but fragile...</title><content type='html'>When a little girl jumps into the open hands of her father, she gives us a picture of trust. She doesn't even think about falling on her face; she smiles and leaps without hesitation, enjoying the thrill of the jump. Her father has never dropped her or failed to catch her; she doesn't think twice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R8H9QbtfMUI/AAAAAAAAAKU/Lsh8x8d-c1k/s1600-h/portrait-of-a-little-girl-crying-~-is050-014.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5170692305956319554" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R8H9QbtfMUI/AAAAAAAAAKU/Lsh8x8d-c1k/s400/portrait-of-a-little-girl-crying-~-is050-014.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;But what would she think if her father dropped her, and she slipped from his hands onto the floor and split her precious little face? How would her child's mind cope with the blood running down her tender face, and the anxious look in her fathers eyes when he sees the injury inflicted by means of his own hands? Panic. Fear. Confusion. Pain. In a rush to the hospital, how would her father cope with himself? What could the father say to her as she lay there bleeding profusely in the car and he speeds her to the emergency room? Would any words; any of her toys; any of the happy songs her and her father usually sing in the car be of any use at such a time? And though her child's heart still longs for her daddy's embrace, would she be able to jump for his arms again? How many times getting dropped and hurt would it take before a poor little child's heart stops trusting in her well-meaning fathers arms? Would the father stay with her in the hospital? Should he stay with her in the hospital, holding her hand? Would he feel bad? Should he feel bad?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The good intentions of the hands of love that reach out for a trusting heart: well intentionioned, but still capable of letting a naive heart plunge into a pool of pain. Trust. &lt;em&gt;Intentions can't fully earn it,&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;yet perfection cannot be the doorway into it&lt;/em&gt;. Trust. When it's there, hope is always fresh. When it's gone, the thrill of life is gone; the thrill of the jump is not worth the risk of the splitting of soft baby skin, and the inevitable pool of blood that awaits after the fall. &lt;em&gt;Trust. Priceless, but fragile. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;..........She's Got Phillips Eyes!!!!!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-ce57c3491bb00698" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v21.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3Dce57c3491bb00698%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1329988788%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D813FC649625FF826C6D765F0427C87ED7F1A46C0.2F10BE12E423EE2FEF988AE413B40A7BE0CE1C95%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dce57c3491bb00698%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DgKsiQTPrbQuI4qVKVhGO0k_zcmM&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v21.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3Dce57c3491bb00698%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1329988788%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D813FC649625FF826C6D765F0427C87ED7F1A46C0.2F10BE12E423EE2FEF988AE413B40A7BE0CE1C95%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dce57c3491bb00698%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DgKsiQTPrbQuI4qVKVhGO0k_zcmM&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-3597037671869927788?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='enclosure' type='video/mp4' href='http://www.blogger.com/video-play.mp4?contentId=ce57c3491bb00698&amp;type=video%2Fmp4' length='0'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/3597037671869927788/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=3597037671869927788&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3597037671869927788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/3597037671869927788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/02/trust-priceless-but-fragile.html' title='Trust: priceless, but fragile...'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R8H9QbtfMUI/AAAAAAAAAKU/Lsh8x8d-c1k/s72-c/portrait-of-a-little-girl-crying-~-is050-014.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-2901315875802074464</id><published>2008-02-15T14:19:00.015-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-15T15:38:16.430-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='culpability'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the doctrine of sin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='addiction'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='systematic theology'/><title type='text'>Sin is Complicated: A Review of Plantinga's Book on the Doctrine of Sin</title><content type='html'>Plantinga, Cornelius, Jr. &lt;em&gt;Not the Way It's Supposed to Be: A Breviary of Sin&lt;/em&gt;. Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1995. 202 pp. $13.99.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XxBbtfMRI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/gxgOl3B6_fA/s1600-h/P2150003.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5167301154398220562" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XxBbtfMRI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/gxgOl3B6_fA/s400/P2150003.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XuL7tfMKI/AAAAAAAAAJE/ACnojJ-sj-E/s1600-h/P2150003.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;A Captivating and Balanced Perspective&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a reason why Cornelius Plantinga's treatment of the doctrine of sin has, after more than a decade since it won &lt;em&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/em&gt;'s &lt;strong&gt;Book of the Year Award&lt;/strong&gt; back in 98, continued to be a standard book in college and seminary classrooms. Using vivid imagery, ample illustrations that captivate the reader, balanced perspective and witty logic, all within a Christian worldview, Plantinga's treatment of the subject of sin is as entertaining as it is enlightening. One finds it easy to agree with the author's opinion that the subject of sin needs "constant sharpening" due to a widespread dumbing-down of the notion in contemporary culture. In popular magazines, for example, over indulging in food, as in a "Peanut Butter Binge" or "Chocolate Challenge," is considered sinful while "lying is not" (x).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Know Thyself," said &lt;em&gt;Socrates&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;- Even Christians—many who have a biblical awareness of the doctrine of the fall and even total depravity—tend to be more aware that they are desperate sinners in need of God's grace than they are of their own particular sin-chemistry and how it might be working itself out in various areas of their own lives. We Christians all too often mistake our abstract theological understanding of sin in general for knowledge of the particular forms that nature takes in our day to day lives and the lives of loved ones; like a pastor who finds his escape from the pressures of family responsibilities in long hours of preparation for a sermon series on sin. Christians tend to have more expertise when it comes to dealing with the sins of their unbelieving culture than in knowing their own sin chemistry and how best to overcome it; like a Christian lawyer who becomes so critical of the corruptions in the legal field that she becomes vulnerable to apathy and irritability which in turn takes a toll on her marriage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XvZbtfMOI/AAAAAAAAAJk/-IGLNKQWyJ0/s1600-h/PC100228.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XyjrtfMSI/AAAAAAAAAKE/DxwQzSTfP8s/s1600-h/PC120017.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5167302842320367906" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XyjrtfMSI/AAAAAAAAAKE/DxwQzSTfP8s/s200/PC120017.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The author helps all to see the contours of that most deceitful and often most subtle enemy that reaps destruction without giving a news flash that it has come and gone, leaving the sinner hung out to dry. Therefore, just about anyone will benefit from reading Plantinga's breviary of sin. Unbelievers will be likely to &lt;strong&gt;get a smack in the face&lt;/strong&gt; as the reality of sin becomes unavoidably clearer with every chapter. Believers will benefit, among other ways, by recognizing the sins Plantinga so vividly describes in their own lives with every new lens the author uses to sharpen our vision from a different angle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Although&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Plantiga's approach is to treat sin from a different angle in each chapter, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;I will only comment on three of his chapters: chapters 1, 2, and 8. &lt;/em&gt;His ten "angles" which correspond to the ten chapters are as follows: 1) Sin as Vandalism of Shalom, 2) Sin as Spiritual Hygiene and Corruption, 3) Sin as Perversion, Pollution, and Disintegration, 4) Sin as The Progress of Corruption, 5) Sin as a Parasite, 6) Sin as a Masquerade, 7) Sin as Folly, 8) Sin as a Tragedy of Addiction, 9) Sin as Attack, 10) Sin as Flight [from God and fellow man].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Sin as Vandalism of Shalom: &lt;em&gt;Why it gatta be like diss?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XueLtfMLI/AAAAAAAAAJM/jlAd4ZK7keA/s1600-h/PC120007.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;With his pithy maxim, "God is for shalom and &lt;em&gt;therefore&lt;/em&gt; against sin," Plantinga manages at once to be both simple yet profound (14). This is the basic idea of his first chapter and rightly so. It is the perfect place to start. Unless one is able to recognize that God is not a kill-joy; that he is not out to make rules against sin arbitrarily, but that he actually has the good of his entire creation in mind—how will one properly appreciate the motives for divine imperatives? To understand God's motives behind his rigid imperatives is to better identify with his more ultimate concern. This axiom may be the most profound statement in Plantinga's entire book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XzurtfMTI/AAAAAAAAAKM/Mxzi6WtGJHM/s1600-h/PC120007.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5167304130810556722" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XzurtfMTI/AAAAAAAAAKM/Mxzi6WtGJHM/s200/PC120007.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Perhaps this truism is profound precisely because it is thoroughly biblical. The principle is made glaringly obvious when Jesus says, "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" (Mk 2:27). Salvation is described as "eternal life" not "eternal obedience," because obedience gives true life while sin destroys it (Jn 3:16; 10:10). Although following Jesus may involve hardship and self-discipline, he appeals to his listeners by tapping into their desire for finding true fulfillment in life (Lk 17:33; Jn 4:10). By highlighting that God is against sin because he is for shalom, the author speaks to &lt;strong&gt;the ultimate concern&lt;/strong&gt; of every human being for having a complete, whole, and fulfilling life. Individuals, as well as societies, all have the ultimate desire to enjoy life to the fullest. Shalom, as the author defines it, includes this fullest sense of life. Desire for this shalom should fuel evangelism because evangelism is the catalyst for shalom. The spread of the gospel begins the process of restoring all of creation back to its maker (2 Cor 5:12-20). The ultimate future for all believers is a restored creation (Isa 2:2-4; 11:1-9; 32:14-20; 42:1-12; 60; 65:17-25; Joel 2:24-29; 3:17-18) and one is to understand that this new creation has already begun in those who are reconciled, for they are reconciled to become an agent of reconciliation (2 Cor 5:18).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because this element of the doctrine of sin is so often underscored in Scripture, every pastor should make constant appeal to the desire of the congregation to have abundant individual and communal life, to establish peace in their communities so far as they can, to play a role in the restoring of God's creation to its &lt;strong&gt;proper ends&lt;/strong&gt;. Comprehending the shalomic state as the chief and proper end that most glorifies God also makes it easier for one to trust and obey the God who gives life as a reward for such obedience (Rom 2:6-11). This careful clarification about the nature of sin—&lt;em&gt;it is vandalism to the shalom that all humans crave&lt;/em&gt;—strikes at the heart of human motivation and is a mighty weapon for mobilizing laity for just about any just cause.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XwULtfMQI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/efOGi-KpGxM/s1600-h/PC060063.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5167300377009139970" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XwULtfMQI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/efOGi-KpGxM/s400/PC060063.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Sin as Corruption: &lt;em&gt;Spiritual AIDS&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XuwrtfMMI/AAAAAAAAAJU/PdDWCef1waA/s1600-h/PC060063.JPG"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Defining corruption as "an unhappy cluster of spiritual perversion, pollution, and disintegration," the author appropriately describes the process of corruption as something similar to the process of the AIDS virus, a "progressive attack on our spiritual immune system that eventually breaks it down and opens the way for hordes of opportunistic sins" (33). In keeping with his thought in the previous chapter, Plantinga also recognizes that these corruptions make life "progressively more miserable" so that the very sin of corruption, as &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;St.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Augustine&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; once put it, "'becomes the punishment of sin'" (33). Certainly this is the biblical teaching. God gives sinners over to their sin as punishment (Rom 1:24-28). The "great law of returns" (68-72) promises that sin will reap destruction (Gal 6:7). General revelation quickly yields specific cases in which one sin or set of sins leads to many more vices—like a spiral of death—and these vices in turn produce various undesired side effects (cf. 130, 134).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The author also gives satisfying attention to &lt;strong&gt;the inward nature of sin&lt;/strong&gt;. The opposite of corruption is "spiritual hygiene" defined as "wholeness of spirit" that fits "the universal design" (34). Basic to such hygiene is internal longing for such hygiene (34). The ideal person, though she may fluctuate in her passion levels for holiness and go through dry spells, "longs to long again" during her wait in the wilderness (34). Furthermore, such a person overflows with gratitude and "passed-on-kindness" (35). Coming to grips with the emotional nature of spiritual hygiene helps one to see that "sin is much more than doing the wrong thing. It begins with loving, worshipping, and serving the wrong thing."&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this is true, &lt;strong&gt;mortal combat&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;with the "diseased root"&lt;/strong&gt; (33) will involve first and foremost a battle for the affections. If, as Plantinga suggests, sanctification is the cure for corruption, then true gospel ministry must primarily target the human heart in preaching, counseling, small groups, and all other means to life transformation. Holiness must not be thought of primarily in terms of "dos and don'ts," as though holiness is to be equated with action. Rather, both mortification and sanctification must focus on the human heart above all else. Given the great law of returns and the nature of sin as &lt;strong&gt;spiritual AIDS&lt;/strong&gt;, sin should be presented in the church as something awful and destructive. Testimonies should underscore this aspect of sin; the preacher should look for examples of drastic consequences in the local newspaper; counselors should look for ways to present a horrible picture of the alternative to faithfulness; Christians in general should not be afraid to "scare" people about sin, since such a scare would be appropriate to the nature of sin itself and consistent with the biblical language about sin and its consequences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Sin as a Tragedy of Addiction: &lt;em&gt;Goin' for what you Know&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XvFbtfMNI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Vld6er9UE1A/s1600-h/PC100267.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5167299024094441682" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XvFbtfMNI/AAAAAAAAAJc/Vld6er9UE1A/s400/PC100267.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The densest of all Plantinga's chapters has to be the chapter on Addiction. Within the span of about twenty pages, Plantinga tackles some of the toughest questions while critiquing some of the most prevalent thought about addiction (129-149). The category of addiction is certainly biblical. Deacons are not to be "addicted" to much wine, for example. The offered definition of addiction as "a complex…attachment to a substance or behavior in which a person compulsively seeks a change of mood" seems fair enough (130). However, the author seeks to wrestle with the more practical questions about &lt;strong&gt;the nature of culpability&lt;/strong&gt; in relation to addiction. He concludes that one oversimplifies the nature of addiction by thinking of it as either "simple sin" or "inculpable disease" because of the actual complexity of the interplay between external influences and internal culpability. This contention does justice to the complexity of reality and is therefore worthy of acceptance (140). On the other hand, the author certainly takes this principle too far when he suggests that a depressed person who slides into substance abuse may not be culpable for her addiction (144).&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2"&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt; Certainly external circumstances may &lt;em&gt;reduce the degree&lt;/em&gt; of culpability, but they do not &lt;em&gt;erase&lt;/em&gt; culpability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that caveat, certainly Plantinga is right to think of addiction as not merely a moral malevolence but also a true tragedy. Thinking of it this way greatly promotes pastoral compassion in the local church for those suffering with addictions. As the author himself points out, as a result of this paradigm, "We therefore want to accuse him &lt;em&gt;and also to sympathize with&lt;/em&gt; him" (140, emphasis mine). Addiction should be presented in the local church with sensitivity to the suffering of the addicted, the &lt;strong&gt;complexity of the causes&lt;/strong&gt; and degrees of addiction, as well as the culpability of the addict. Furthermore, where possible, pastors should seek to remove the addict from environments and circumstances that tend to feed the addiction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This Book is &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Dope Skrilla&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The reader of &lt;em&gt;Not the Way its Supposed to Be&lt;/em&gt; will come away from this book with a greater appreciation for the complexity of questions revolving around the nature of culpability as well as a keener ability to discern the subtlety of sin and how it might easily get a foothold in one's life while in stealth mode. The preacher will find plenty of juicy illustrations for sermons on sin. All in all, Plantinga's writing style and taste for relevant questions and interesting illustrations make his book the best I have ever read on the subject.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;_________________________________&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Footnotes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[1] Paul David Tripp, &lt;em&gt;Instruments In the Redeemer's Hands: People in Need of Change Helping People in Need of Change&lt;/em&gt; (Phillipsburg, New Jersey: P&amp;amp;R Publishing, 2002), 67.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[2] Here the author seems to assume that depression is a mere physical evil, not a spiritual one, for he says: "Cases of intrauterine addiction, for example, belong in the former category, as do any other chemical or process addictions innocently contracted…. Perhaps some addictions in these cases qualify as physical evils rather than as moral evils" (44).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-2901315875802074464?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/2901315875802074464/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=2901315875802074464&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/2901315875802074464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/2901315875802074464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/02/sin-is-complicated-review-of-plantingas.html' title='Sin is Complicated: A Review of Plantinga&apos;s Book on the Doctrine of Sin'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R7XxBbtfMRI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/gxgOl3B6_fA/s72-c/P2150003.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-7587458135098715953</id><published>2008-01-28T01:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-01-31T19:43:03.344-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book review'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tripp'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Biblical Counseling Movement'/><title type='text'>The Heart is the Target: A Review of Tripp's Instruments in the Redeemers Hands</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;The Heart is the Target&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R52DSyTlTzI/AAAAAAAAAI8/zkO_GrUYzuI/s1600-h/P1270010.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160425106801250098" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R52DSyTlTzI/AAAAAAAAAI8/zkO_GrUYzuI/s400/P1270010.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although there are many mini-principles that flow out of Tripp's paradigm, there are a few meta-principles that guide his book. The most important of these meta-principles, and perhaps the principle that all the other principles in his book are intended to carry out is the principle of the centrality of the heart to life-transformation. Tripp believes that the heart of the matter is the heart and that the heart matters more than anything else. He continually drives home that the goal of counseling is heart change. This primary principle can be seen from several angles in his book. Tripp adopts a distinctively Edwardsian view of the heart, for he sees it as a fount of competing desires (79-80). It includes the entire scope of the inner person—spirit, soul, mind, will, and emotions (59).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tripp's Language About Worship Underscores A Heart-Centered Approach&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R516DiTlTtI/AAAAAAAAAIM/OEAPWvFaZIA/s1600-h/P1190047.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160414949203594962" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R516DiTlTtI/AAAAAAAAAIM/OEAPWvFaZIA/s400/P1190047.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tripp's language about worship is an attempt to underscore the centrality of the heart in any pursuit of holiness and sanctification. Everyone has certain objects she values more than anything else in life and around which she orders her life; therefore, everyone is a worshipper at heart (44). Since worship is inescapable, the real question is: What will we worship—God's glory or some "pseudo glory" (98)? Because worship of God is the aim, "The Heart Is The Target" (57). The primary battle in spiritual warfare, for Tripp, is the battle over the human heart (4). Heart-worship directs behavior and is the principle element in motivation (58). The author not only sees the heart as central to the pursuit of holiness but also to the nature of sin. "Sin is much more than doing the wrong thing. It begins with loving, worshipping, and serving the wrong thing" (67). Because the heart is like the steering wheel and gas pedal of a car, directing it where to go and supplying the power to get there, whatever we worship will have an "inescapable influence" over the rest of our lives, whether this influence is direct or indirect (68). This "fundamental biblical principle" explains why some people irritate us and others do not, why some situations press our buttons and make others happy, why some respond one way in a situation and others respond just the opposite—&lt;em&gt;our hearts are different&lt;/em&gt; (77-78). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The "Crumbs of Externalism" Won't Do&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;After one recognizes the key role the heart plays in both righteousness and sin, it becomes very easy to see why Tripp would loath the "crumbs of externalism" that only address behavior (70). He compares such a grossly limited focus to stapling apples to the branches of trees that do not naturally grow them (63). This fruit-stapling imagery highlights the absurdity of addressing someone's behavior without addressing the heart issues (63). This basic understanding of human nature will need to be assumed and taught to those to whom we minister because "when most people seek change, they seldom have their hearts in view" (109). The first step in Tripp's game plan for being an instrument in the hand of the redeemer is to get to know people in need, but getting to know people essentially means "knowing their heart," and true friendship is the connection of hearts (111). Thus, not only does Tripp keep the heart central to the goal of change but also to the means of change—starting with the first step. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Love Makes the World Go-Round&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R516gSTlTuI/AAAAAAAAAIU/uDWhdra-34k/s1600-h/P1190045.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160415443124834018" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R516gSTlTuI/AAAAAAAAAIU/uDWhdra-34k/s200/P1190045.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Tripp's second most important principle, which is the natural outflow of keeping the heart central to ministry, is the principle of love. This is a result of keeping the heart central because love is first and foremost a heart attitude. Although Tripp never explicitly argues this, we might say he seems to take it for granted based on the wording of the first and second most important commandments (88, 93). Since Tripp defines the heart as including the entire inner person, the heart is also central to the concept of love. When speaking of the importance of loving those to whom one ministers, Tripp often makes statements that might make a Reformed Baptist's hair stand up on the back of his neck. For example, he says, "The foundation for people-transforming ministry is not sound theology; it is love" (117). The author is aware of the tendency for us as Christians to "lob grenades of truth into people's lives rather than lay down our lives for them" (118). Sure, counseling involves problem solving, but it must be people focused (126, cf. 116, 134, 137). A woman whose husband has just left her does not need a recap on the Bible's teaching about marriage and divorce. If that is all a minister can do, he will likely lose his opportunity to help (127). Christians must "mediate God's presence"(129) by being marked by compassion rather than merely being "theological answering machines" (152, cf. 131).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Emotional Connections are Fundamental To Ministry&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R517miTlTvI/AAAAAAAAAIc/4QM_ur0T0ow/s1600-h/P1230085.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160416650010644210" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R517miTlTvI/AAAAAAAAAIc/4QM_ur0T0ow/s200/P1230085.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;There are many other angles from which Tripp keeps the heart central to godliness and sin, and therefore central to ministry and life transformation. He advises his readers to focus first on making an emotional connection to the person who needs help (132). Questions such as "What are you feeling?" are basic to the process of understanding how to help them (133). Whereas some might say, "Your emotions are irrelevant; what really matters is what God says is true," Tripp does not fall for this trap. He sees emotions as indicators of our interpretations of life—whether they are biblical or unbiblical (196). The key to personal ministry is not always about knowing exactly what to say (184), but those who love will speak when they see a sin problem that needs to be addressed (202). Love is the only right motivation for rebuking and confronting others (220).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Disagreements&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;__________________&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R518CSTlTwI/AAAAAAAAAIk/m0VtFBeJYhs/s1600-h/PC120011.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160417126752014082" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R518CSTlTwI/AAAAAAAAAIk/m0VtFBeJYhs/s400/PC120011.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;___________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Situations Don't Have Causal Powers?&lt;/strong&gt; - The ingredient of Tripp's book which most commonly strikes me as unhelpful is his insensitivity to the complex interplay between life circumstances and heart chemistry. After telling a long story about his getting angry when his hopes for a nice Cuban meal were spoiled, he concludes: "&lt;em&gt;My anger was not caused by the people and situations I encountered&lt;/em&gt;. My anger was caused by completely legitimate desires that came, wrongly, to rule me" (82). Tripp seems to assume that since his heart had a key role to play in determining whether he allowed the circumstances to make him angry, therefore the circumstances did not play a key role in making him angry. He thus perpetuates the false dichotomy common in the Biblical Counseling Movement (BCM) between external causation and internal causation. One's sin, according to typical BCM mantra, is not caused by external circumstances. Rather, it is caused by internal dispositions of the heart. Although Tripp effectively demonstrates that external circumstances are not always a sufficient cause and explanation for why we do what we do in a given situation, and that "any attempt to examine the causes of conflict must begin with the heart" (78), he does so by denying external circumstances a key role in determining human behavior (77, 82-83). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Situations &amp;amp; Heart-Chemestry Both Determine Action&lt;/strong&gt; - In contrast to this false dichotomy, situations, as well as heart-chemistry, &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; play a vital role in determining our actions. I have never seen the need to affirm one to the exclusion of the other. While it is true that, on the one hand, two different people in the same situation may react differently, it is equally true that two people with the same values will respond differently when faced with different situations. A man is more likely to desire unlawful revenge under circumstances in which his wife and children are kidnapped, raped, tortured and burned alive than under circumstances in which they remain safe and unharmed. If he were to seek unlawful revenge under the former conditions, external circumstances would play a key role in explaining what caused his vengeful actions. Giving such circumstances a significant power of causation does not necessarily relieve the man of his culpability. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R519qiTlTxI/AAAAAAAAAIs/zAsK5NOypzQ/s1600-h/P1270014.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160418917753376530" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R519qiTlTxI/AAAAAAAAAIs/zAsK5NOypzQ/s200/P1270014.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Furthermore, in contrast to Tripp's oversimplification, external circumstances have a role in shaping our spiritual chemistry (i.e. our heart) over the years. Explaining a twenty-year-old's lesbianism merely by recourse to her sinful heart begs the question about whether her life circumstances up to that point have greatly shaped the dispositions of her heart. What if she was molested from the age of 12 by lesbians? Would this not greatly pervert her heart and sexual longings? Because such life circumstances greatly influence the heart, restricting explanations for human behavior to present dispositions without due attention to one's history and life circumstances is a remarkable oversimplification.&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt; Extreme secularists have excused culpability in the sinful behaviors of others on the basis of hard circumstances. Radical fundamentalists have responded by ruling out circumstances from playing a key role in causing certain behavior and the development of human character. This is where I think the BCM has swung the pendulum too far. One does not need to deny external circumstances their power of causation in order to establish culpability. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Unintended Side-Effects: "It's Not My Fault"&lt;/strong&gt; - This reactionary error also unwittingly creates a new opportunity for denying culpability. A mother who abuses and neglects her children should take a great deal of responsibility for how bad they turn out. She should not be allowed the excuse, "But circumstances do not determine who we are, and you cannot blame me for how my children turn out. Their circumstances have not caused them to turn out to be rotten, it is a result of their sinful nature." While a BCM proponent would seem to lack the appropriate paradigm to combat this sort of reasoning and thus be in need of revising its position, a dual explanation theory of human disposition and behavior would automatically render such an excuse as preposterous, irrational, and inconsistent with both Scripture and common sense (Mt 18:6). Although it seems that the concern of those within the BCM has been to keep the anti-responsibility models of secularists from attributing people's problems merely to circumstance, I am afraid they have in the process allowed for parents who abuse and neglect their children to deny their responsibility in playing a key role in determining how bad their children turn out. In their concern for defending responsibility in one area, ironically, the BCM paradigm has left gaping holes in other areas. Furthermore, although secularists tend to be way off the mark about the answer to the human problem by virtue of their God-less theories, they rightly see that strategies for fixing the human problem are largely circumstantial (cf. 9). Once converted to a Christ-centered worldview through the power of the gospel, a new believer will be forced by way of obedience to Christ into a significant circumstantial repair that may take years of hard and holy sweat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R51-LCTlTyI/AAAAAAAAAI0/um64eTYiHdY/s1600-h/P1220070.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5160419476099125026" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R51-LCTlTyI/AAAAAAAAAI0/um64eTYiHdY/s400/P1220070.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;______________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Footnotes &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[1] Some might say, "Well, certainly circumstances play a role, but they do not cause a person to sin." Language of causation is too tricky for a detailed philosophical inquiry into the nature and language of causation in this brief book review. However, it is worth considering the fact that Christ threatens those who "cause" (&lt;em&gt;skandalise&lt;/em&gt;) the little one's to sin (Mt 18:6). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/17053182-7587458135098715953?l=koopstacochran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/feeds/7587458135098715953/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=17053182&amp;postID=7587458135098715953&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7587458135098715953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/17053182/posts/default/7587458135098715953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://koopstacochran.blogspot.com/2008/01/heart-is-target-review-of-tripps.html' title='The Heart is the Target: A Review of Tripp&apos;s Instruments in the Redeemers Hands'/><author><name>Bradley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06508329842925114556</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1329/1635/320/DSC01372.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R52DSyTlTzI/AAAAAAAAAI8/zkO_GrUYzuI/s72-c/P1270010.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17053182.post-8761155730184052147</id><published>2008-01-02T19:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-01-02T22:37:00.205-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calvinism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='limited atonement'/><title type='text'>Reasons to Believe in a Limited Atonement</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w2ZgNVIqI/AAAAAAAAAG0/aG6KPhCR_0g/s1600-h/PC240115.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5151051885575479970" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w2ZgNVIqI/AAAAAAAAAG0/aG6KPhCR_0g/s400/PC240115.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It All Comes Back to Limited Atonement&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a running joke among me and a friend of mine. When in the midst of deep theological conversations, we will say jokingly as a way of comic relief, "&lt;em&gt;It all comes back to limited atonement!&lt;/em&gt;" It's a way of poking fun at Calvinists who place too much importance on this doctrine as if it were at the heart of the gospel itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEWS FLASH: &lt;em&gt;Calvinism is not the gospel&lt;/em&gt;. The basic message of the gospel is not dependant on Calvinism. However, for some reason, the doctrines of Calvinism are always a hot topic no matter where you go (except where people have not been exposed to the different positions). Calvinists get passionate about it because their view is so often misunderstood. Arminians get passionate about it because they see Calvinism as a system which undermines the free love of God for everyone, and nowhere is this undermining clearer to them than in the "L" in TULIP--&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;L&lt;/strong&gt;imited Atonement&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Did Christ die for everyone or just the elect?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of all the points of Calvinism, limited atonement is the hardest to demonstrate biblically. For this reason, four-point Calvinists are a common phenomenon. I was a NOEL (no "L") Calvinist for about 3 or 6 months (back in like 02) while wrestling with the biblical issues involved. I was convinced that Limited Atonement was more of a philosophical or logical extension of the other four points of Calvinism than it was a biblical teaching. Therefore, I rejected it. I have since changed my mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Actual Atonement&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w3QQNVIsI/AAAAAAAAAHE/b74S-owIXq8/s1600-h/PC240054.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5151052826173317826" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w3QQNVIsI/AAAAAAAAAHE/b74S-owIXq8/s200/PC240054.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I now hold to a view which I prefer to call &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A&lt;/strong&gt;ctual&lt;/em&gt; Atonement, although it is virtually the same as what has misleadingly come to be called the &lt;em&gt;limited&lt;/em&gt; view of the atonement,&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt; also known as &lt;em&gt;effectual&lt;/em&gt; redemption and &lt;em&gt;particular&lt;/em&gt; redemption. There are at least five good reasons to hold to an actual view of the atonement. First, it is more consistent with the biblical teaching on the nature of the atonement. Second, the logic (not merely the words) of certain biblical passages seems to make the effectual view of the atonement necessary. Third, many passages affirm a limited group of people as the intended benefactors of the atonement. Forth, most biblical objections to the limited view of the atonement are easily answered by a closer examination of the range of meanings for words like "all" and "world" along with a closer look at the context in which these words are found. Once one sees the alternative interpretation for these verses to be consistent with the meaning of words and the context of the passages, such texts fit quite comfortably with a doctrine of Actual Atonement. Finally, philosophical objections to limited atonement, such as the objection that it ruins the sincerity of a universal offer of salvation, are based on clumsy logic and are easily answered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;First, What Does "Atonement" Even Mean?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w2xgNVIrI/AAAAAAAAAG8/buOk6seoVFM/s1600-h/PC250151.JPG"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5151052297892340402" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MAj26LIM5rE/R3w2xgNVIrI/AAAAAAAAAG8/buOk6seoVFM/s200/PC250151.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;First, the Actual Atonement position is more consistent with the biblical teaching on the nature of the atonement than the general view of the atonement. Unfortunately, general and limited views often speak past one another over the extent of the atonement on account of a failure to first agree on the nature of the atonement itself. Before I can make this claim, I should first clarify my understanding of the two most popular views. The general view holds to a dual intentionality in the atonement: "Christ's sacrifice was intended both to &lt;em&gt;provide&lt;/em&gt; salvation for all and to &lt;em&gt;procure&lt;/em&gt; salvation for all who believe"&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2"&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt; (i.e. the elect). The so-called limited view of the atonement holds that "Christ's redeeming work was intended to save the elect only [all those who believe] and actually secured salvation for them."&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=17053182#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3"&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt; One should notice that the latter view of the atonement does not contradict the former, but rather affirms the second intention contained in it: "to procure salvation for all who believe." Therefore, the real question is whether the language of the atonement in Scripture includes both the idea of appeasing wrath as well as the idea of provision, or whether it has a narrower meaning that only includes the appeasing of wrath. In other words, does the atonement language include the notion of "providing salvation for all" or as Geisler puts it, the notion that "everyone is 
